McLaren MCL33

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mclaren111 wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 11:40
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Good picture of low downforce RW.
Is it just perspective, or do the endplates go inwards?

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I don't understand why McLaren has so much wing

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zioture wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 11:43
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl_xMXnXcAAtFEo.jpg
I don't understand why McLaren has so much wing
Haven't they changed the angle since that photo, I'm sure I've seen a skinnier wing

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zioture wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 11:43
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl_xMXnXcAAtFEo.jpg
I don't understand why McLaren has so much wing
Yesterday Alonso said They were testing Singapore spec and they were very slow like mobile chicanes...
Thats why You saw this higher DF rear wing. I believe They tested new floor too.

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Rudex wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 13:16
zioture wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 11:43
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl_xMXnXcAAtFEo.jpg
I don't understand why McLaren has so much wing
Yesterday Alonso said They were testing Singapore spec and they were very slow like mobile chicanes...
Thats why You saw this higher DF rear wing. I believe They tested new floor too.
Let's hope for an improvement in Singapore. It's tracks like that which they need to capitalise on.

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charliesmithhd wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 13:18
Rudex wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 13:16
zioture wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 11:43
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl_xMXnXcAAtFEo.jpg
I don't understand why McLaren has so much wing
Yesterday Alonso said They were testing Singapore spec and they were very slow like mobile chicanes...
Thats why You saw this higher DF rear wing. I believe They tested new floor too.
Let's hope for an improvement in Singapore. It's tracks like that which they need to capitalise on.
Unfortunately it isn't because they have great foresight that they are testing everything trackside, it is because the wind tunnel results don't reflect what is happening on the track. They are in fact sacrificing race weekend work to correlate future updates and settings.
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mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 14:38
charliesmithhd wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 13:18
Rudex wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 13:16


Yesterday Alonso said They were testing Singapore spec and they were very slow like mobile chicanes...
Thats why You saw this higher DF rear wing. I believe They tested new floor too.
Let's hope for an improvement in Singapore. It's tracks like that which they need to capitalise on.
Unfortunately it isn't because they have great foresight that they are testing everything trackside, it is because the wind tunnel results don't reflect what is happening on the track. They are in fact sacrificing race weekend work to correlate future updates and settings.

I disagree they all test future packages in advance on track.

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With 3d printed models, many of which don't work? I feel McLaren are doing it to a much greater extent. But I haven't followed the other teams in detail so maybe I'm wrong.
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What do the aero experts here say to this flow-viz pattern?

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mwillems wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 14:38
charliesmithhd wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 13:18
Rudex wrote:
01 Sep 2018, 13:16


Yesterday Alonso said They were testing Singapore spec and they were very slow like mobile chicanes...
Thats why You saw this higher DF rear wing. I believe They tested new floor too.
Let's hope for an improvement in Singapore. It's tracks like that which they need to capitalise on.
Unfortunately it isn't because they have great foresight that they are testing everything trackside, it is because the wind tunnel results don't reflect what is happening on the track. They are in fact sacrificing race weekend work to correlate future updates and settings.
Nothing better than real-time data.

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Are there any big upgrade packages planned for the rest of the season?

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charliesmithhd wrote:
02 Sep 2018, 01:02
Are there any big upgrade packages planned for the rest of the season?
Depends what you consider big. There isn't going to be a 0.5 sec upgrade but there was a substantial one in Hungary two races ago. New front wing, floor and diffuser etc.

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Mclaren's biggest challenge is the lack of technical leadership. James Key is not going to join them this year, and now they are supposedly talking with Pat Fry to have him re-join. Who is going to define the concepts and design for next year's car? Totally unclear to me.

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Alonso fastest in speed trap during quali (346kph) vs vandoorne 17th (333kph)

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charliesmithhd wrote:
02 Sep 2018, 08:55
Alonso fastest in speed trap during quali (346kph) vs vandoorne 17th (333kph)
Yes, with Magnussen tow xDD.

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