McLaren MCL33

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Great analysis
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Is it just me or is the same 2017 car with a Halo on it and the monkey seat removed?!
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1a. studio shots blue on orange don't look flattering at all. though i would have preferred black over the blue, the circuit shots however don't look bad at all.
1b. that is a seriously empty body. nearly zero sponsors, no mclaren name, no chandon on the sidepods. looks weird, actually.
2. floor looks like what i expected to see last year - i think that was the original intent, but they had to make sacrifices because of the engine, which would make the floor 'trick' unneccesary.
3. weird lizard scales on the sidepods
4. complicated front wing
5. is it me, or does it look like mclaren's halo is seated higher?!!!!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:09 pm
Is it just me or is the same 2017 car with a Halo on it and the monkey seat removed?!
In most aspects you kinda can say its a MCL32-B, but like they announced, they will bring a massive update for the first race
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I’m pretty sure it’s longer for one thing.

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Here is the wheelbase comparison from above article:

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designf1 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:29 pm
Here is the wheelbase comparison from above article:

https://formulaone21.files.wordpress.co ... png?w=1680
Don't think that is remotely close, being the FOV/perspective is quite different in each photo. Especially as the lines used to match up various points on are different planes from the camera, ie the wheel faces are on 1 plane, but the rear wind end plate or chassis/wing mirrors are on another.

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JPBD1990 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:30 am
The picture of it with the drivers next to it above looks exceptional. I think the studio lighting and ‘shopped photos don’t really do it justice.

Overall it does look to be a simple evolution of last years car, but maybe that’s good? I remember the comparative simplicity of the Ferrari in 2008 (much simpler) vs the Mclaren (much more complex) and they performed very similarly. It’s just different philosophies to end up at the same point.
It is funny becasuse is the picture photoshoped, they added the car afterwards they took the picture of the drivers. you just have to see the different lighting.

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Oh DearImage

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:09 pm
Is it just me or is the same 2017 car with a Halo on it and the monkey seat removed?!
Agreed.

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One way to get a somewhat more valid wheelbase comparison with shots from a similar perspective but different zoom/lens is trying to get to the center of the car on the axles after making sure the wheels have the same diameter (checking top to bottom since that does not change as much or at all with perspective)... but it's harder to do on real pics than in this shitty example made in paint
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edit: ok i've done it with a similar result ... :roll:

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Love the colour hate the livery....it makes mclaren look poor and broke without any major sponsors. It definitely has some unique parts though

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RZS10 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:21 pm
The only way to get a somewhat valid wheelbase comparison with shots from a similar perspective but different zoom/lens is trying to get to the center of the car on the axles after making sure the wheels have the same diameter (checking top to bottom since that does not change as much or at all with perspective)... but it's harder to do on real pics than in this shitty example made in paint
https://i.imgur.com/OBu9fhj.png
You can use the rear wing and front wing endplates plus a bit of trigonometry to adjust to something reasonable i supoose.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:04 pm
RZS10 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:21 pm
The only way to get a somewhat valid wheelbase comparison with shots from a similar perspective but different zoom/lens is trying to get to the center of the car on the axles after making sure the wheels have the same diameter (checking top to bottom since that does not change as much or at all with perspective)... but it's harder to do on real pics than in this shitty example made in paint
https://i.imgur.com/OBu9fhj.png
You can use the rear wing and front wing endplates plus a bit of trigonometry to adjust to something reasonable i supoose.
The only way to do from two different pictures is to access the EXIF data of the pictures to know what lenses were used for the shots, that would give you a more precise metering of the distance but unfortunately the high of the camera from where it was taking from is not on the EXIF so it would be still a close call but not precise at all.

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