Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

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Diferent endplate configurations
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Morteza wrote:
22 May 2019, 18:13
Diferent endplate configurations
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7LwdmFWkAIdgdl.jpg
Via @AlbertFabrega
Guessing bottom spec is Monaco, as it is similar to what they ran in Melbourne. The specification with 3 hanging strakes has been used in the past few races.

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Cooling specification (max):

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can someone explain this?

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Capharol wrote:
22 May 2019, 23:39
https://i.imgur.com/btLLrn3.png

can someone explain this?
The normal push rod mounts against the upright via a rose joint. This allows for the rotation of the upright with lock.

The extended pick up of the Mercedes will result in greater radial movement of the pick up point - follows the surface of s sphere rather than being mounted on/ close to the axis of rotation. Result is a different connection.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
23 May 2019, 00:07
Capharol wrote:
22 May 2019, 23:39
https://i.imgur.com/btLLrn3.png

can someone explain this?
The normal push rod mounts against the upright via a rose joint. This allows for the rotation of the upright with lock.

The extended pick up of the Mercedes will result in greater radial movement of the pick up point - follows the surface of s sphere rather than being mounted on/ close to the axis of rotation. Result is a different connection.
okay but wasn't this illegal in, i believe 2016? or at least doubtfull

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No, just the extent of it was limited. But the position is relative to the other pickup points, so with the upper joint position so far up away from the wheel it's brung it into more focus.

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PhillipM wrote:
23 May 2019, 04:50
No, just the extent of it was limited. But the position is relative to the other pickup points, so with the upper joint position so far up away from the wheel it's brung it into more focus.
okay thank you for the answer

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Capharol wrote:
22 May 2019, 23:39
https://i.imgur.com/btLLrn3.png

can someone explain this?
A video of it in action can be seen here

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx0J12yIhcz ... jwck73o4lp

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Maplesoup wrote:
23 May 2019, 20:35
Capharol wrote:
22 May 2019, 23:39
https://i.imgur.com/btLLrn3.png

can someone explain this?
A video of it in action can be seen here

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx0J12yIhcz ... jwck73o4lp
thanks alot

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Love this angle to see the floor "real estate."

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Capharol wrote:
22 May 2019, 23:39
https://i.imgur.com/btLLrn3.png

can someone explain this?
'Old photo' (what's called old... 8) . They've got an improved version now/already/again.
Actually historically Ferrari enabled this solution but is not using it...
Underneath the 'updated photo' of the current version in action
(most visible on the left wheel/rods in the Monaco lefthander...):

Mercedes' front Suspension Analysis

Slow turns were the weakest aspect in the Mercedes W9 and specially the W8, their long wheelbase (longest of the grid) was a problem in slow tracks like Monaco, as their pressure center moves backwards a lot as speed decreases, generating understeer due to the loss of front downforce.

Before the start of the 2018 season, FIA introduced a new technical regulation (after Ferrari's suggestion) that limited the hight variation of the floor (front) with the variation of the direction angle. Therefore since 2018, a suspension system called "Pushrod on Upright" is legal.

Ferrari tested this system later on during the 2018 season, but isn't using it this year. However, Mercedes noticed that this system was perfect to solve their slow turn problems in 2019.

In the video, you can see how the W10 moves down significantly when the turning angle is at its maximum in the Monaco hairpin.

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Source: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/photos/me ... /44428215/

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Because it's not really right, pushrods on the upright have been legal for a long time, many cars were using this long before Ferrari, it got limited in 2018 because Mclaren had made an extreme version with a huge amount of rideheight change before testing - and the FIA didn't like it and limited it - Mclaren had to redo their suspension and aero to suit and it hurt them.