Scuderia Ferrari SF90

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New nano paint,and generic aerodynamic upgrades in Spain =D>
The Nano paint to dispose of heat better.

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Well this is puzzling. If their issue is not aero, why big aero upgrades? Isn't it suspension that needs attention? I thought Vettel said it wasn't an aero problem. :wtf:
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... r_Ferrari/

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Chuckjr wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 9:29 am
Well this is puzzling. If their issue is not aero, why big aero upgrades? Isn't it suspension that needs attention? I thought Vettel said it wasn't an aero problem. :wtf:
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... r_Ferrari/
The Barcelona update might still not be a direct reaction to the issues they're having. This is probably just a normal long planned evolution.

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Chuckjr wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 9:29 am
Well this is puzzling. If their issue is not aero, why big aero upgrades? Isn't it suspension that needs attention? I thought Vettel said it wasn't an aero problem. :wtf:
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... r_Ferrari/
Do you think they’ll stop upgrading the car just because their current issue is not aero related?

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Will be very interesting to see how this upgrades work in Barcelona.
Ferrari have huge potential in that car if they can maximise it and work the tyres and get them in the sweet spot.

mmred
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Chuckjr wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 9:29 am
Well this is puzzling. If their issue is not aero, why big aero upgrades? Isn't it suspension that needs attention? I thought Vettel said it wasn't an aero problem. :wtf:
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... r_Ferrari/
When there s a tyre problem you fix the whole car, more downforce better suspension everything. Still the primary cause is not aero

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Interesting article about the Ferrari problem,very accurate.... =D>

https://www.f1analisitecnica.com/2019/0 ... -2019.html

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Ferrari are introducing their new spec engine 2 races early.

It's to be hope the desperation does not cause reliability issues and set them back even further.

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djones wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:34 pm
Ferrari are introducing their new spec engine 2 races early.

It's to be hope the desperation does not cause reliability issues and set them back even further.
Maybe the new specification solved the problem with reliability.
But in Barcelona even a much more powerful engine will not make you catch up with Mercedes.

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Carl Mccoy wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:42 pm
djones wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:34 pm
Ferrari are introducing their new spec engine 2 races early.

It's to be hope the desperation does not cause reliability issues and set them back even further.
Maybe the new specification solved the problem with reliability.
But in Barcelona even a much more powerful engine will not make you catch up with Mercedes.
More power allows more drag and this equals more downforce....

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mmred wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 8:04 pm
Carl Mccoy wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:42 pm
djones wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:34 pm
Ferrari are introducing their new spec engine 2 races early.

It's to be hope the desperation does not cause reliability issues and set them back even further.
Maybe the new specification solved the problem with reliability.
But in Barcelona even a much more powerful engine will not make you catch up with Mercedes.
More power allows more drag and this equals more downforce....
Of course you'd need to be able to add this downforce.
Outside of that, it isn't that easy in an energy-limited formula. They need to extend the life for the other engines with 2 races overall now, this might lead to grid penalties late in the season.
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aral
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Once again the thread is straying off topic. If you want to discuss aero etc, please do so on the aero threads.

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wesley123 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 10:40 am
mmred wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 8:04 pm
Carl Mccoy wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:42 pm


Maybe the new specification solved the problem with reliability.
But in Barcelona even a much more powerful engine will not make you catch up with Mercedes.
More power allows more drag and this equals more downforce....
Of course you'd need to be able to add this downforce.
Outside of that, it isn't that easy in an energy-limited formula. They need to extend the life for the other engines with 2 races overall now, this might lead to grid penalties late in the season.
The engines will be rotated and they will end up running about 7GP each. Spec 1 will surely be used in Monaco, on Fridays and possibly Singapore. So no, they won't have too extend their life by 2 races. If anything maybe by one, if they use spec 2 in a less demanding GP after they introduce spec 3. Anyway, if it is true that Ferrari have engine reliability problems, it makes more sense to change it now rather than in Canada.

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Carl Mccoy wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:42 pm
djones wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:34 pm
Ferrari are introducing their new spec engine 2 races early.

It's to be hope the desperation does not cause reliability issues and set them back even further.
Maybe the new specification solved the problem with reliability.
But in Barcelona even a much more powerful engine will not make you catch up with Mercedes.
I'm pretty perplexed with this decision especially because of how hard it is to pass on this track. Unless they're confident in a front row lockout I don't see how a more powerful/reliably powerful engine would give them more passing opportunities if they don't qualify very well. Last sector of Barcelona takes away so much of the flow of the circuit in my opinion.

mmred
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Partymood wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 1:39 pm
wesley123 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 10:40 am
mmred wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 8:04 pm


More power allows more drag and this equals more downforce....
Of course you'd need to be able to add this downforce.
Outside of that, it isn't that easy in an energy-limited formula. They need to extend the life for the other engines with 2 races overall now, this might lead to grid penalties late in the season.
The engines will be rotated and they will end up running about 7GP each. Spec 1 will surely be used in Monaco, on Fridays and possibly Singapore. So no, they won't have too extend their life by 2 races. If anything maybe by one, if they use spec 2 in a less demanding GP after they introduce spec 3. Anyway, if it is true that Ferrari have engine reliability problems, it makes more sense to change it now rather than in Canada.
they can use them just on fridays too
the reliabiity issues is relevant in kms not in gps, so they can use even safer maps on fridays with old specs and end using new engines for more races but same kms needed
but they do say that spec2 is more powerful so it is not just a reliability issue solutioon