Scuderia Ferrari SF90

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by Morteza » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:44 pm

From Singapore. Anything new?
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by MtthsMlw » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:57 pm

Morteza wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:44 pm
From Singapore. Anything new?
https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/F ... 630329.jpg
Still launch spec I'd say

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by Sevach » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:31 pm

f1316 wrote:
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Ashwinv16 wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:32 pm
f1316 wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:45 pm
It’s basically a mini cape behind the new nose - interesting that they still chose not to extend the cape further ala Mercedes et al; you’d think there’d be some dirty downforce available in doing that.
But drag too, a lot of it.
Which I wouldn’t expect them to be concerned about in somewhere like Singapore.
This nose might not be a Singapore one off.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by LM10 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:34 pm

Did the Ferraris use the upgrades in FP2?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by ScrewCaptain27 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:09 pm

LM10 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:34 pm
Did the Ferraris use the upgrades in FP2?
Yes, all of them.
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by LM10 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:13 pm

ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:09 pm
LM10 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:34 pm
Did the Ferraris use the upgrades in FP2?
Yes, all of them.
That's a good sign. Thank you.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by MtthsMlw » Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:36 pm

New diffuser now on the car, I think it's the one tested in France.
Waiting for better pics.
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France:
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Singapore:
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Look at the outer section.
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by LM10 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:56 pm

MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:36 pm
New diffuser now on the car, I think it's the one tested in France.
Waiting for better pics.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg
via motorsport.com
They didn’t put it on in FP1 and FP2, did they? So that’s a picture from FP3? Quite interesting.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by MtthsMlw » Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:59 pm

Yes that's from FP3, not 100% sure that they didn't use yesterday as well.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by El Scorchio » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:53 pm

Well. They’ve done something right!
Astounding.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by psyke007 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:57 am

MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:59 pm
Yes that's from FP3, not 100% sure that they didn't use yesterday as well.
Are they using it on both cars or only on seb's?
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by MtthsMlw » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:27 am

psyke007 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:57 am
MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:59 pm
Yes that's from FP3, not 100% sure that they didn't use yesterday as well.
Are they using it on both cars or only on seb's?
Both cars

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by MtthsMlw » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:56 am

Clean shot of the new diffuser
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by Zarathustra » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:54 pm

MtthsMlw wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:56 am
Clean shot of the new diffuser
https://mediaproxy.tickaroo.com/v3/imag ... 3665a5135c
AMuS
I am a real aero noob- so having said that myself, here’s my question;

I’ve noticed over the years- it started with the front wings, that the more ‘elements’ the better and now they also do it at the diffuser (edge).

Hypothetically speaking- if it would be allowed & possible and they created a diffuser (edge) existing out of 50 tiny elements- would this in theory be even better than the 4 they currently use?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post by MtthsMlw » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:13 pm

Zarathustra wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:54 pm
MtthsMlw wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:56 am
Clean shot of the new diffuser
https://mediaproxy.tickaroo.com/v3/imag ... 3665a5135c
AMuS
I am a real aero noob- so having said that myself, here’s my question;

I’ve noticed over the years- it started with the front wings, that the more ‘elements’ the better and now they also do it at the diffuser (edge).

Hypothetically speaking- if it would be allowed & possible and they created a diffuser (edge) existing out of 50 tiny elements- would this in theory be even better than the 4 they currently use?
I don't think it's as black and white as that. If you look at the SF70h's diffuser it is very complex in the outer section, probably what you're imagining. For sure it worked well back then but in 2018 Ferrari went with a more 'traditional' design. In general most diffusers look quite similiar nowadays. More winglets or more gurneys may pull some more air from underneath but also induce more drag. With the current regulations I guess more than 3 gurneys aren't worth it, not that much space there to work with.