Scuderia Ferrari SF90

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:57 pm

We will see but i have a feeling that maybe it's not the Ferrari that had put the hand in the candy jar, let's wait.
You know, is not impossible that Ferrari told to FIA to do this to clear the sky and see if some other team that suddenly fly as matter the engine did something.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:58 pm

saviour stivala wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:41 pm
what investigation, what are they investigating, they are investigating as per who's official complain?
The FIA doesn't need an official complaint, They can tear a car a part on an FIA officials whim if they want to. For some reason it seems they have decided to have a look at Ferrari's fuel lines along with those of their customers, as well as one other unspecified team.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:08 pm

bluechris wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:57 pm
We will see but i have a feeling that maybe it's not the Ferrari that had put the hand in the candy jar, let's wait.
You know, is not impossible that Ferrari told to FIA to do this to clear the sky and see if some other team that suddenly fly as matter the engine did something.
That's possible. A few weeks ago Binotto told that he would be happy their car to be investigated. Why would he tell that?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:39 am

dans79 wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:58 pm
saviour stivala wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:41 pm
what investigation, what are they investigating, they are investigating as per who's official complain?
The FIA doesn't need an official complaint, They can tear a car a part on an FIA officials whim if they want to. For some reason it seems they have decided to have a look at Ferrari's fuel lines along with those of their customers, as well as one other unspecified team.

Agree that 'the FIA doesn't need an 'official complaint' and that 'they can tear a car apart' on an FIA official whim if they want to'. But the facts so far shows regardless the accusations pushed forward non-stop and one after the other. The only officially recorded fuel 'flow' infringements so far since the start of the new fuel flow formula that resulted in official 'disqualification' where three in number, and they involved two out of the ten teams on the grid and three of the four power units on the grid.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:06 pm

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:33 pm

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:33 am

Image

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Ferrari ran the floor with and without the deflectors that push the air out.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:13 pm

Sevach wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:33 am
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 746-50.jpg

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 837-47.jpg

Ferrari ran the floor with and without the deflectors that push the air out.
Looks like it's still not clear if these are good or not. According to Merc they are just "aero porn" but add complexity to a very sensitve area.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:45 pm

For the record, on saturday both cars were with the deflectors.

But yeah Ferrari went back and forth on those more than a couple of times the last 2 years.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:31 pm

In Abu Dhabi-2018 race Mercedes were with the row of five pitot tubes, situated at the rear of the floor and ahead of the rear wheel. So they could legally run with those tubes during tyres testings after that race. Any information that shows Ferrari SF90 with additional sensors today? If they want to beat Mercedes in 2020, they need to be as smart as Merc's engineers.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:31 pm

Nice look at the dual wastegates.
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via motorsport.com

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:52 am

MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:31 pm
Nice look at the dual wastegates.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... rear-1.jpg
via motorsport.com
What are the benefits of running such a configuration?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:47 am

jumpingfish wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:31 pm
In Abu Dhabi-2018 race Mercedes were with the row of five pitot tubes, situated at the rear of the floor and ahead of the rear wheel. So they could legally run with those tubes during tyres testings after that race. Any information that shows Ferrari SF90 with additional sensors today? If they want to beat Mercedes in 2020, they need to be as smart as Merc's engineers.
I haven't seen anything of the sort on any car today(including Mercedes), maybe regulations were ammended.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:52 pm

siskue2005 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:52 am
MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:31 pm
Nice look at the dual wastegates.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... rear-1.jpg
via motorsport.com
What are the benefits of running such a configuration?
Trying to aid the upwash airflow from diffuser and RW for a very small amount of DF.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF90

Post Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:45 am

Speculation Topic for the 2020 Contender is now opened: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=28633
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