Red Bull RB15

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by JordanMugen » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:10 am

Sieper wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:20 pm
I do agree the FW on Max's car does indeed look suspiciously like the Monaco wing
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zibby43 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:59 pm
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I notice even Mercedes are now running an outwash front wing, and Williams are testing one in Suzuka free practise too.

That leaves Red Bull and Renault as the only holdouts running essentially full chord front wings IIRC.

Is it a mistake for Red Bull not to be developing the so popular outwash front wing :?:
dxpetrov wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:15 am
Obviously they have no clue what to do and forced to go back&forth with different elements to try to get lucky with best combination of downforce levels.

Could an outwash front wing potentially be the panacea to improve the RB15's (& RB16's) handling issues?

It's so frustrating that the development of the RB15 seems to be stalled, and there do not seem to be any large chassis gains on the horizon ( to bring Red Bull back into race winning contention ). :(
Zarathustra wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:52 pm
Mercedes just went the Red Bull way...
But why does Red Bull refuse to go the Mercedes way on the front wing and follow Mercedes in adopting a front wing that is more similar (but less aggressive) to the Ferrari style?

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by jagunx51 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:35 am

Woowww....is this additional layer ? carbon?
Morteza wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:24 am
Detail of Red Bull rear rims. Grooved areas to interact with temperatures.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGep2PFUcAA7tvZ.jpg
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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Brake Horse Power » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:38 am

Seems to me it is casted / forged and than coated

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Curbstone » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:07 am

I think it's clear that the FW shown earlier in this topic was not the new one. See what Max drove:Image

I don't seen any changes compared to the Sochi FW. I find it a bit strange how little changes we have seen. In the beginning of the season the story was that RBR reckoned their FW fylosophy philosophy had much more development potential than the outwash version. And also that a switch to an outwash version would be much more easy for Red Bull than for Mercedes.
Yet I haven't really seen a significant development of RB's wing, and while they are still having issues Mercedes has managed to convert to an outwash style version before RB.

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Sieper » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:38 pm

Yes, that pre fp1 wing was the Monaco wing. RBR did develop a new front wing but apparently it wasn’t deemed a succes and they have not used it. Allthough Albon ran flowvis on the FW lower outside in FP1. So maybe they did test it?

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by wesley123 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:01 pm

JordanMugen wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:10 am

I notice even Mercedes are now running an outwash front wing, and Williams are testing one in Suzuka free practise too.

That leaves Red Bull and Renault as the only holdouts running essentially full chord front wings IIRC.
Everyone runs outwash as much as the rules allow.

It's so frustrating that the development of the RB15 seems to be stalled, and there do not seem to be any large chassis gains on the horizon ( to bring Red Bull back into race winning contention ). :(
The car literally got visible updates this weekend. Outside of that, improvements don't always have to be visible, or even on the car itself.
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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by auv » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:05 pm

RWs of the top 3. And RB15 without T-wing here :!:

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by zibby43 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:01 pm

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Another photo of the RW-spec with the slot just behind the leading edge of the end plate:

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by ispano6 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:14 am

Wouter wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:22 am
dxpetrov wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:15 am
Wouter wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:11 am


Pierre Waché, Technical director said it.

Whats new?
Here the frontwing from Sochi and the new one:

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/R ... 631994.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGfIMkJVUAA ... name=large
It's only new if you had a short memory. That's a pre-Austria, Monaco / France spec front wing. Obviously they have no clue what to do and forced to go back&forth with different elements to try to get lucky with best combination of downforce levels.
It's only new if you had a short memory.
Tell that to Pierre Waché, the Technical director, he said that. Tell him he has a short memory. :lol:
He merely said they were bringing one, its not like he labeled it for you to know. Why would they show the new wing publicly on a day there is no running?

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by zibby43 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:18 pm

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Re: Red Bull RB15

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Morteza » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:20 am

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Sieper » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:21 am

Thanks Gents, so a redesigned rear body cover, to let more heat be extracted out and the T wing for maximum downforce.

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Morteza » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:50 pm

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Re: Red Bull RB15

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