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Interesting. Is that article saying that the scoop in the endplate takes that airflow from underneath then and jettisons it outboard, around the front tire? Where is the exit for this flow? The back of the endplate is open I guess?

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jh199 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:05 pm
Interesting. Is that article saying that the scoop in the endplate takes that airflow from underneath then and jettisons it outboard, around the front tire? Where is the exit for this flow? The back of the endplate is open I guess?
I think it's just a "dent" don't know how to describe it :lol: and not an air intake. If it is, it's really cool though.
Also I'm pretty sure I've seen a design like this before but idk when and on what car.
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tangodjango wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:57 pm
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-te ... e/4887745/

Red Bull: Scoop discovered under the front wing

Adrian Newey never ceases to amaze: on the RB16 a new solution was photographed at the Nurburgring under the side bulkhead of the front wing. The Red Bull introduced a blower between the band and the external sidewalk to energize the flow that must move the air outside the front wheel. Will this also be a stunt that will make school?
Red Bull has not given up the idea of breaking eggs in the basket of Mercedes. Max Verstappen was the only driver to break the hegemony of the black arrows in the 2020 season, but the Dutchman did not have the single-seater to counter the pace in the world championship of Lewis Hamilton and Valtteri Bottas.

Both at Monza and Mugello he was forced to retire due to problems with the Honda engine, but the Milton Keynes team never stopped the development of the RB16. On Adrian Newey's single-seater for the Eifel GP at the Nurburgring we discovered a new modification in the front wing, which could open a new line of aerodynamic research.

In the photo that we propose you can see the big blowing that you can see under the side bulkhead of the front wing. We are talking about a very sensitive area of the machine. So far we have noticed some sidewalks outside the strip of various shapes and designs to activate vortices able to reduce the turbulences generated by the front tire in contact with the asphalt.

The Red Bull, on the other hand, takes a step forward because it has designed a slot that sucks the flow under the bulkhead and makes it vent in the upper part to direct a more energized air flow towards the trailing edge of the curved band, in order to direct its course beyond the front wheel.

It will be interesting to understand if this solution will make school in the paddock: there are those who are keeping it under observation for a while. The image shows us some flaws of the realization, a sign that this is not a stunt for the German race, but a development that has already been brought to the track.

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... nt-win.jpg
That's the endplate of the front wing is it? That hole will be covered with a skid plate as the endplate touches the ground over kerbs / bumps. The "hole" is just the fact that the endplate moulding is hollow in order to save weight.
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Zoom in on the trailing edge of the end plate towards the front tire

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tmoneyr007 wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:07 am
Zoom in on the trailing edge of the end plate towards the front tire

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mg ... ed-b-1.jpg
Hard to see if that's just a shadow or if indeed it is a vent. Would be interesting if it is a vent though. Can't wait to see more photos.

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tmoneyr007 wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:07 am
Zoom in on the trailing edge of the end plate towards the front tire

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mg ... ed-b-1.jpg
Also the "Austrian" nose in this pic.

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Additional details:
The two photos have already been posted but these ones have clear demarcations which make for easier viewing.

"The lack of action on the opening day of the Eifel Grand Prix has meant more time to analyse what the teams are doing in their garage, and that has helped us get a brilliant insight in to an interesting front wing solution on the Red Bull RB16.
The team's mechanics are normally very careful about how they present the wing to the front of the car, well aware that viewing it from the right angle can reveal its inner workings.
And that is what happened at the Nurburgring as the team inadvertently exposed the underside of the wing momentarily, giving us sight of a furrow that's been ploughed in the underside of the footplate region.
While it is not entirely clear what the intent of this furrow is, it has raised the question about whether it is simply a crevice to alter the distribution of pressure, or whether there's a larger system at play that helps improve the outwash effect and reduce the turbulence created by the front tyre.
The intricate design of the footplate, both on the upper and lower surface, would suggest the latter and indicates that a hollow endplate may have been deployed by Red Bull. This design appears to feed two blowholes on the trailing edge of the endplate.
This could help simulate the sort of effect that taking a notch out of the corner might have, given that many teams favoured such a solution last season when the regulations were fresh."

https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/revea ... s/4888538/

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Matthew Somerfield wrote:New mirror stalks (squared off) on the RB16 (red arrow), whilst a new winglet appears on the side of the halo too (blue arrow)
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Is there a big slot down to 2 holes or am I see it wrong ?

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Morteza wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:51 pm
Matthew Somerfield wrote:New mirror stalks (squared off) on the RB16 (red arrow), whilst a new winglet appears on the side of the halo too (blue arrow)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej98yenWoAM ... =4096x4096
Must be to try to guide the vortex that goes over the sidepods.
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Morteza wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:51 pm
Matthew Somerfield wrote:New mirror stalks (squared off) on the RB16 (red arrow), whilst a new winglet appears on the side of the halo too (blue arrow)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej98yenWoAM ... =4096x4096
Connection on the right with the mirror is changed too.
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wesley123 wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:42 pm
Morteza wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:51 pm
Matthew Somerfield wrote:New mirror stalks (squared off) on the RB16 (red arrow), whilst a new winglet appears on the side of the halo too (blue arrow)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej98yenWoAM ... =4096x4096
Connection on the right with the mirror is changed too.
Good spot, it forms more of an end plate.
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tangodjango wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:01 pm
Additional details:
The two photos have already been posted but these ones have clear demarcations which make for easier viewing.

"The lack of action on the opening day of the Eifel Grand Prix has meant more time to analyse what the teams are doing in their garage, and that has helped us get a brilliant insight in to an interesting front wing solution on the Red Bull RB16.
The team's mechanics are normally very careful about how they present the wing to the front of the car, well aware that viewing it from the right angle can reveal its inner workings.
And that is what happened at the Nurburgring as the team inadvertently exposed the underside of the wing momentarily, giving us sight of a furrow that's been ploughed in the underside of the footplate region.
While it is not entirely clear what the intent of this furrow is, it has raised the question about whether it is simply a crevice to alter the distribution of pressure, or whether there's a larger system at play that helps improve the outwash effect and reduce the turbulence created by the front tyre.
The intricate design of the footplate, both on the upper and lower surface, would suggest the latter and indicates that a hollow endplate may have been deployed by Red Bull. This design appears to feed two blowholes on the trailing edge of the endplate.
This could help simulate the sort of effect that taking a notch out of the corner might have, given that many teams favoured such a solution last season when the regulations were fresh."

https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/revea ... s/4888538/

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... -win-1.jpg

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... -win-1.jpg
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Also some new stuff at the rear suspension:

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https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-te ... =widget-22

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And evaluation on front suspension, from yesterdays FP:
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