Ferrari SF1000

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jjn9128 wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:14 pm
holeindalip wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:54 pm
jh199 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:22 pm
https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg

Here's a nice image from motorsport.com showing a vortex formed underneath the floor
Where does this vortex form? The leading edge of the floor behind the barge boards?
There's a horizontal delta shaped vane on the step plane - inside the "bargeboard" volume. I've seen it called the "water wing". You can see it forming here
https://www.totalsimulation.co.uk/wp-co ... rticle.png
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... w&usqp=CAU

pierrre wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:56 pm
interesting picture...that jet of water making away around that standing vertical blade(whatever they call it)
Generally called the SPLEF - Side Pod Leading Edge Flap
Yup that’s what I thought, I think I was just calling it something different.... Thank you

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Huge cooling exit on the rear of Ferraris in Bahrain.
Low power but high cooling needs. :?

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-te ... uVqZk9z9jg

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gordonthegun wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:12 pm
Huge cooling exit on the rear of Ferraris in Bahrain.
Low power but high cooling needs. :?

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-te ... uVqZk9z9jg
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zibby43 wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:32 am
gordonthegun wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:12 pm
Huge cooling exit on the rear of Ferraris in Bahrain.
Low power but high cooling needs. :?

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-te ... uVqZk9z9jg
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... tail-1.jpg

Is that a volute in the exhaust pipe? Interesting...

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gordonthegun wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:12 pm
Huge cooling exit on the rear of Ferraris in Bahrain.
Low power but high cooling needs. :?

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-te ... uVqZk9z9jg
Those two go together. Because of the fuel flow limit, the more power you make, the less cooling you need.

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Mammoth hot air exits this weekend. I remember last year at Bahrain they brought decently tight/small exit engine covers at this same track

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wowgr8 wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:17 pm
Mammoth hot air exits this weekend. I remember last year at Bahrain they brought decently tight/small exit engine covers at this same track
And it’s cooler this time of year.

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Jolle wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:06 pm
gordonthegun wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:12 pm
Huge cooling exit on the rear of Ferraris in Bahrain.
Low power but high cooling needs. :?

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-te ... uVqZk9z9jg
Those two go together. Because of the fuel flow limit, the more power you make, the less cooling you need.
Also less tight blockage - less drag. I mean less internal drag. But in expense of losing some corner performance. But relatively speaking they more need compromise in minimal straightline speed losses than pure corner perfomance. Also track is not so much curvy hence their decision to run that setup.
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

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zibby43 wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:36 pm

And it’s cooler this time of year.
Yeah I really don't know what to believe, there was (and still is) talk of the radiators in the sidepods creating a blockage that hampers airflow and creates drag (though apparently that was just put out by Ferrari through the media as an excuse for the bad performance on the straights), but it seems there's actually an issue with the cooling, they haven't run the exits tight once this year. The "normal" config in 2020 is like the hot race config in 2019

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wowgr8 wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:12 pm
zibby43 wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:36 pm

And it’s cooler this time of year.
Yeah I really don't know what to believe, there was (and still is) talk of the radiators in the sidepods creating a blockage that hampers airflow and creates drag (though apparently that was just put out by Ferrari through the media as an excuse for the bad performance on the straights), but it seems there's actually an issue with the cooling, they haven't run the exits tight once this year. The "normal" config in 2020 is like the hot race config in 2019
It's always the same problem, more fuel flow less cooling needed. Most of the problems comes from there, they're just trying to cover the engine due to their reputation, but the problem it's just there.
In 2021 we will see almost the same car going way better.

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Small FW update. Footplate has been cut and a small flick added, similar to Racing Point.
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Different FW configs for Sakhir GP
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You would think Ferrari would trim as much downforce as they could for this one to have any sort of chance of being competitive on the straights... the term 'sitting duck' springs to mind.

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Morteza wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:16 pm
Different FW configs for Sakhir GP
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoUZ-69XEAc ... ame=medium
Bottom wing isn't new but hasn't been seen in a long while.