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haza wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:16
Only a theory but could it be that all the teams are opting for slim noses in preparation for 2021 as they will be slim thin noses next year
Doubt it, don't think there will be much carry over for 2021

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f1rules wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 20:37
i really have hopes in this remark, like discussed on autosport forum, to me sounds like key confirming mclaren really lacked in the suspension area and the latest technologies used
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13 Feb 2020, 19:36
trinidefender wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 19:34

Source?
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... 5/4684763/
Suspension technology like what? Bellville springs? hydraulic multi flow valves? Suspension geometry and kinematics?
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yeah i dont know, i think only rb and merc knows the latest and probably ferrari, forexamble, as far i know mclaren didnt go down the hydraulic route, as it was to expensive and complicated, also i think they mentioned it was to heavy, but im sure the teams that did, learned something that could be used now also, so what exactly im not sure, but key does say new technology used

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godlameroso wrote:
f1rules wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 20:37
i really have hopes in this remark, like discussed on autosport forum, to me sounds like key confirming mclaren really lacked in the suspension area and the latest technologies used
Suspension technology like what? Bellville springs? hydraulic multi flow valves? Suspension geometry and kinematics?
It’s mainly on the suspension geometry... The comments from Key were that some of the ideas they wanted to implement in the MCL34 weren’t possible because of the suspension geometry of last year’s car... The new one, with a higher pick up point for both the upper and lower wishbones are allowing them to try different things.

There is no mention of changes to the suspension technology at this point.


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from the video
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its qouted a bit different but i def think he means tech also

“Equally there’s a lot of technologies, let’s say, around the front, which were only possible to do with the new car – we’ve introduced that too. So that’s the new stuff, but having said that it’s all based around, although not entirely based around, what we learned last year."
and says
"We had what we felt were opportunities we couldn’t do with the 34 with the geometry we had.”


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13 Feb 2020, 21:29
godlameroso wrote:
f1rules wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 20:37
i really have hopes in this remark, like discussed on autosport forum, to me sounds like key confirming mclaren really lacked in the suspension area and the latest technologies used

Suspension technology like what? Bellville springs? hydraulic multi flow valves? Suspension geometry and kinematics?
It’s mainly on the suspension geometry... The comments from Key were that some of the ideas they wanted to implement in the MCL34 weren’t possible because of the suspension geometry of last year’s car... The new one, with a higher pick up point for both the upper and lower wishbones are allowing them to try different things.

There is no mention of changes to the suspension technology at this point.


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This 2 pictures show how much higher the upper wishbone is coming from the chassis... On the MCL35 it’s at the highest point possible without been on top of the chassis itself

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cplchanb wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 15:39
So teams are converging on the merc style slim nose...
Except Ferrari. They seem determined to stick with the wide penis nose.
The McL nose is very tapered & elegant.

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f1rules wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:33
its qouted a bit different but i def think he means tech also

“Equally there’s a lot of technologies, let’s say, around the front, which were only possible to do with the new car – we’ve introduced that too. So that’s the new stuff, but having said that it’s all based around, although not entirely based around, what we learned last year."
and says
"We had what we felt were opportunities we couldn’t do with the 34 with the geometry we had.”


SmallSoldier wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:29
godlameroso wrote:
Suspension technology like what? Bellville springs? hydraulic multi flow valves? Suspension geometry and kinematics?
It’s mainly on the suspension geometry... The comments from Key were that some of the ideas they wanted to implement in the MCL34 weren’t possible because of the suspension geometry of last year’s car... The new one, with a higher pick up point for both the upper and lower wishbones are allowing them to try different things.

There is no mention of changes to the suspension technology at this point.


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My take on it from reading the Article is that Key is talking about changes to the rear suspension not the front

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The car seems a very good evo from last year.. lets hope the Engine is also a good step-up

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I feel that they wanna reveal as less bits as possible, even in the presentation 90% of the time they were showing the front.

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the EDGE wrote:
f1rules wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:33
its qouted a bit different but i def think he means tech also

“Equally there’s a lot of technologies, let’s say, around the front, which were only possible to do with the new car – we’ve introduced that too. So that’s the new stuff, but having said that it’s all based around, although not entirely based around, what we learned last year."
and says
"We had what we felt were opportunities we couldn’t do with the 34 with the geometry we had.”


SmallSoldier wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:29
It’s mainly on the suspension geometry... The comments from Key were that some of the ideas they wanted to implement in the MCL34 weren’t possible because of the suspension geometry of last year’s car... The new one, with a higher pick up point for both the upper and lower wishbones are allowing them to try different things.

There is no mention of changes to the suspension technology at this point.


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My take on it from reading the Article is that Key is talking about changes to the rear suspension not the front
The quote from Key talking about the suspension Geometry (no reference if front, rear or both):

“It’s been designed as we were developing it [last year’s car], the car’s a bit of a process and we felt were opportunities we couldn’t unlock on 34 with the geometry we had.”


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SmallSoldier wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 22:30

The quote from Key talking about the suspension Geometry (no reference if front, rear or both):

“It’s been designed as we were developing it [last year’s car], the car’s a bit of a process and we felt were opportunities we couldn’t unlock on 34 with the geometry we had.”


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That is true... however he does earlier on in the article

“We’ve done a similar exercise with the gearbox, to match that philosophy. There’s been a lot of work on rear suspension too, so I suppose from the cockpit backwards there’s a very different approach to what we’ve had before – that’s really where the conceptual side of things was.

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SmallSoldier wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:43
This 2 pictures show how much higher the upper wishbone is coming from the chassis... On the MCL35 it’s at the highest point possible without been on top of the chassis itself

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202002 ... e4b1ea.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202002 ... 1942f8.jpg


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Push rod and trailing upper control arm member pushed rearwards. It even curves.
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