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ryaan2904 wrote:
30 Apr 2021, 11:47

This new diffuser looks stunning =D>
The 3 little fins on the outer edge are all a similar size. The one furthest outboard used to be a little longer and the profile has changed.
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via Motorsport.com

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Saddle-style cooler mounted above PU:

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This does not sound good: https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/83320/ve ... ckage.html

Again correlation issues?
Can't have that against Mercedes.

Couple with the lack of straightline speed this weekend and the W12 clearly being more consistently able to perform the fastest laps, I am sure it is code red now at RBR.
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Do we know what the carbon piece is in the keel? It seems to have a connector.

Thought maybe fire Extinguisher but wasn't sure if that can be placed outside the tub.

Fitted:
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Owen.C93 wrote:
04 May 2021, 21:17
Do we know what the carbon piece is in the keel? It seems to have a connector.

Thought maybe fire Extinguisher but wasn't sure if that can be placed outside the tub.
It's a sensor. Either ride height or slip angle or similar.
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Owen.C93 wrote:
04 May 2021, 21:17
Do we know what the carbon piece is in the keel? It seems to have a connector.

Thought maybe fire Extinguisher but wasn't sure if that can be placed outside the tub.

Fitted:
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tion-1.jpg

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExUaSnPW8AA ... =4096x4096
It's the AOT (Auxiliary Oil Tank), AT have it in the same place.

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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... lOJ4t.html

Red Bull brought a heavily aerodynamically upgraded car to Portimao and are clearly pressing full-on with development in their fight for the World Championship, despite the resources that will be required for the all-new car meeting the regulations of 2022. Mark Hughes examines the updates with technical illustrations from Giorgio Piola.

Although the competitive picture in Portugal seemed to be dominated by how each car reacted to the grip-less track surface and gusty wind, the substantial changes Red Bull brought promise to have added significant aerodynamic performance – which may well be seen to better effect around Barcelona this weekend.

The changes run from front to back, with modified front brake ducts, a totally reconfigured bargeboard arrangement, changes to the outer edge of the floor shape and the various vanes there – all converging towards a new diffuser.

The diffuser is the key here and all the changes aft of it are to feed its expanded side channels. These have been created by pinching in the diffuser’s central section.
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Barcelona is a more aerodynamically demanding track than Portimao and its track surface does not tend to create the sort of tyre grip problems seen last weekend. It should therefore give a better indication of just how effective Red Bull’s re-prioritised aerodynamics really are.
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Wouter wrote:
04 May 2021, 21:55
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... lOJ4t.html

Red Bull brought a heavily aerodynamically upgraded car to Portimao and are clearly pressing full-on with development in their fight for the World Championship, despite the resources that will be required for the all-new car meeting the regulations of 2022. Mark Hughes examines the updates with technical illustrations from Giorgio Piola.

Although the competitive picture in Portugal seemed to be dominated by how each car reacted to the grip-less track surface and gusty wind, the substantial changes Red Bull brought promise to have added significant aerodynamic performance – which may well be seen to better effect around Barcelona this weekend.

The changes run from front to back, with modified front brake ducts, a totally reconfigured bargeboard arrangement, changes to the outer edge of the floor shape and the various vanes there – all converging towards a new diffuser.

The diffuser is the key here and all the changes aft of it are to feed its expanded side channels. These have been created by pinching in the diffuser’s central section.
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Barcelona is a more aerodynamically demanding track than Portimao and its track surface does not tend to create the sort of tyre grip problems seen last weekend. It should therefore give a better indication of just how effective Red Bull’s re-prioritised aerodynamics really are.
Is it true that Max didn't have the full package? Some articles quoted Marko saying Max didn't have the updated front wing? Sorry if it's already mentioned elsewhere.

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I think it was an updated rear wing, not front wing.

And then I think it likely Max went for a lower DF rear wing (perhaps not yet available in the new spec, or deemed counter effective for the purpose) as Lewis did the same. He ran a lower DF rear wing as opposed to Valterri.

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Helmut Marko to RTL: "Where we still lag a bit behind Mercedes is on the engine side, not on the combustion engine but in the overall package. When Mercedes charges their battery and then releases all the power, they seem to have more horsepower than we do."

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f1rules wrote:
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tami.
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Helmut Marko to RTL: "Where we still lag a bit behind Mercedes is on the engine side, not on the combustion engine but in the overall package. When Mercedes charges their battery and then releases all the power, they seem to have more horsepower than we do."
With only one engine mode permitted for all competitive sessions of a race weekend, how can they have a peak horsepower deficit without their ICE being down on power?... Is there any loophole in the PU mode regulations? If the goal was to confine the operation of all ICE power-related moving parts, then one would think the policing of that would be extremely straightforward (if the power output on the crankshaft on full throttle at a certain engine speed varies by more than 120kW, then something fishy is going on)...

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Look at that view on the gearbox...
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Oh, that's why....I see now. :twisted:
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