Red Bull RB18 Speculation Thread

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Scalexf1 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:44 pm
west52keep64 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:11 pm
Scalexf1 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:28 am


Let’s look at the possible disappointment looming.
It’s quite likely that most if not all the teams will reveal the fia show car through February as their launch car.
The launch could well be just livery.
Be prepared.
Yes, and I understand the first test is completely private, no journalists are allowed. We will be reliant on people at the circuit taking sneaky photos and videos.
And even then most of the teams will run a half spec car, not really relevant for the first race.
The concept of the car will probably be there, however most of what is to be put on the car for the first race will probably be missing. The chassis/ side pod inlet area is going to be hard to ignore as it’s pretty much impossible to change this once the concept is set.
But the front wing, rear wing will probably not be what will be on the car come March.
I assume that most teams will be on track the first few days with giant aero racks, doing correlation work and nothing else. With the spare testing days, they need all the data they can get to improve sim and cfd. Tuning of the car and setup work with the race team is probably the second test for most teams.

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Jolle wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:20 pm
Scalexf1 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:44 pm
west52keep64 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:11 pm


Yes, and I understand the first test is completely private, no journalists are allowed. We will be reliant on people at the circuit taking sneaky photos and videos.
And even then most of the teams will run a half spec car, not really relevant for the first race.
The concept of the car will probably be there, however most of what is to be put on the car for the first race will probably be missing. The chassis/ side pod inlet area is going to be hard to ignore as it’s pretty much impossible to change this once the concept is set.
But the front wing, rear wing will probably not be what will be on the car come March.
I assume that most teams will be on track the first few days with giant aero racks, doing correlation work and nothing else. With the spare testing days, they need all the data they can get to improve sim and cfd. Tuning of the car and setup work with the race team is probably the second test for most teams.
Aero correlation and then fire fighting for some.
I think there will be journalists allowed, just no TV.

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Scalexf1 wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:37 am
Aero correlation and then fire fighting for some.
I think there will be journalists allowed, just no TV.
Scarbs said on Twitter no journalists are allowed.

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west52keep64 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:11 pm
Scalexf1 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:28 am
west52keep64 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:38 pm
Probably worth just clarifying this before it gets discussed, the image used on the RB18 launch page is appears to be the showcar:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJFBVREXoAA ... me=900x900

Credit: Scarbs on Twitter.
Let’s look at the possible disappointment looming.
It’s quite likely that most if not all the teams will reveal the fia show car through February as their launch car.
The launch could well be just livery.
Be prepared.
Yes, and I understand the first test is completely private, no journalists are allowed. We will be reliant on people at the circuit taking sneaky photos and videos.
Why would the sport decide (yet again) to give a big middle finger to the fans?

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f1jcw wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:18 am
west52keep64 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:11 pm
Scalexf1 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:28 am


Let’s look at the possible disappointment looming.
It’s quite likely that most if not all the teams will reveal the fia show car through February as their launch car.
The launch could well be just livery.
Be prepared.
Yes, and I understand the first test is completely private, no journalists are allowed. We will be reliant on people at the circuit taking sneaky photos and videos.
Why would the sport decide (yet again) to give a big middle finger to the fans?
The only alleged reason I have seen is that Bahrain paid to be the only testing venue televised

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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:28 am
f1jcw wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:18 am
west52keep64 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:11 pm


Yes, and I understand the first test is completely private, no journalists are allowed. We will be reliant on people at the circuit taking sneaky photos and videos.
Why would the sport decide (yet again) to give a big middle finger to the fans?
The only alleged reason I have seen is that Bahrain paid to be the only testing venue televised
This is the problem with modern sport (sorry for the OT), the sport thinks it doesn't really need the fans, it is the same with Football, since they got TV money they was no longer reliant on filling the stadiums, they got more from the TV companies.

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Friendly reminder: Red Bull RB18 Speculation Thread

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lio007 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:23 pm
Friendly reminder: Red Bull RB18 Speculation Thread
I speculate the car will have 4 wheels.
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SiLo wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:19 pm
lio007 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:23 pm
Friendly reminder: Red Bull RB18 Speculation Thread
I speculate the car will have 4 wheels.
That's for sure!

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Pure speculation (given the sources)!?
Nevertheless, would be great if true, but hard to believe the RB18 is that good:


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lio007 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:58 pm
Pure speculation (given the sources)!?
Nevertheless, would be great if true, but hard to believe the RB18 is that good:

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status ... 93413?s=20

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Downvoted for speculating in a speculation thread, that's rich. :lol:

LMP1 cars back in 2016 had a weight of 875kg, dripping wet that was around 950kg. These new F1 cars dripping wet, are 885kg. These cars are so heavy that they drive more like LMP or GT cars than F1 cars, just from the sheer mass. When Vettel won his first championship the cars were 770kg with 150kg of fuel onboard. These new cars weigh more than that with no fuel in the car.

Then there's the tires, likely derived from the tires Pirelli provides for GT3 cars.
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Renowned Industrial designer Olcay Tuncay has knocked it out of the park with his latest offerings on what the 2022 Formula 1 Red Bull Racing ought to look like when it breaks cover next month. Interesting rendering here for the way the nose is connecting with the front wing.

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Ryar wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:01 am
Renowned Industrial designer Olcay Tuncay has knocked it out of the park with his latest offerings on what the 2022 Formula 1 Red Bull Racing ought to look like when it breaks cover next month. Interesting rendering here for the way the nose is connecting with the front wing.

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Interesting as in non-compliant with the rules??
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godlameroso wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:48 am
Downvoted for speculating in a speculation thread, that's rich. :lol:

LMP1 cars back in 2016 had a weight of 875kg, dripping wet that was around 950kg. These new F1 cars dripping wet, are 885kg. These cars are so heavy that they drive more like LMP or GT cars than F1 cars, just from the sheer mass. When Vettel won his first championship the cars were 770kg with 150kg of fuel onboard. These new cars weigh more than that with no fuel in the car.

Then there's the tires, likely derived from the tires Pirelli provides for GT3 cars.
That’s an Excellent post Godlameroso! Excellent post!

I don’t know why but I wasn’t going to bother much at all this year. Maybe because these contraptions look to have been designed for some other reason than racing. As far as I (was) concerned they represented nothing more than an attempt by one entity to neuter another, (Newey). However it seems that now RedBull know all about how the cake-walk was pulled off Mr. Newey & Co, now having settled into things more comfortably, are very likely to resume normal service and lift both Championships this year. I predict both Championships because these weighty more powerful and appropriately Geared vehicles will no doubt allow Mr. Perez to shine more brightly.

Thank You too to Ryar. Your post also has provided an old Geezer (me) with reason to be cheerful.