Not sure I understand, retracted as in activated? When it's activated, downforce is not an issue.raymondu999 wrote:I think what he might mean is maybe they made a rear wing design which only loses a little bit of downforce when it's retracted, while losing a lot of drag.
I think they said this around Belgian GP .Actually they said that R31 had the same amount of downforce as R30 around August/September (Renault stopped developing R30 after Spa. So if R31 had the same amount of downforce in August as R30 in the end of the season then...) and they were and are still finding more so I won't be suprised if R31 has more downforce than R30. What's more interesting, they said that R31 will produce downforce in totaly different way than R30.Metal wrote:Donuts could you give me the source where Boullier said that R31 has more downforce than R30. Cuz i only heard that it is more competetive. Thanks.
It was the Renault F1 Team Podcast, I don't think it's available any more. I can't find it text anywhere... sorry.Metal wrote:Donuts could you give me the source where Boullier said that R31 has more downforce than R30. Cuz i only heard that it is more competetive. Thanks.
Bolded: No he didn't say that. There is no quote nor article stating such thing. It was just some forumer at autosport froum who stated this rumour, which was then quickly spread out by Renault/Kubica supporters over the internet.Donuts wrote:James Allison also mentioned that a lot of focus has been on the adjustable rear wing. A hint that they might have "tweaked" something?
By the way, I've read several teams talking about less downforce this year, but if I remember correctly, Eric Boulllier(I think it was before last season ended) said that the R31 allready had more downforce than the R30. Well, I guess we'll see as the season progresses... [-o<
One more thing! How much KERS experience did Renault F1 have in 2009? Any at all? I remember BMW-Sauber-F1 only had KERS for some tracks. Robert Kubica should'nt need too much time to adjust to it. As for Vitaly Petrov, we'll... maybe he is even better of without it? I guess reliability can be tested in the factory, so it should'nt be of too much worry, some teams are not even bringing their new cars for the first test.
You can actually only use it on one specified straight on each circuit. The wing then moves back into downforce position the moment the brakes are hit for the following corner.Metal wrote:Donuts could you give me the source where Boullier said that R31 has more downforce than R30. Cuz i only heard that it is more competetive. Thanks.
When the rear wing is being retracted the downforce doesnt matter raymondu, you do it only on the straights.