Sauber C30 Ferrari

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by Byronrhys » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:53 pm

Its going to be Blue and white for sure :lol: Two major sponsors confirmed in that colour and if panasonic comes on board that'd make strike three.

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by Byronrhys » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:34 am

Sergio's seat fitting in the C30 and there new seatbelt supplier Takata.
A lot is covered but do I see a U section on the form? The nose also looks like its going to be low.
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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by Blackout » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:16 am

Yes maybe a U shaped nose...
The radiator entry are bigger than those from the C29 witch has been built around the BMW engine. The Ferrari effect ? C29's look suggest that its radiators weren't large but the Ferrari 'made' them longer.

This C29 will maybe have larger but shorter rads.

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by scarbs » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:45 am

Its definitely a "V" nose, you can see the shaped underside on the high res pics here (http://f1.f-e-n.net/index.php/url28393). Curious they've hidden the undercut on the roll structure, not much to hide when they had one on 2010? Has that roll structure been rapid prototyped, it seems a large piece for such a process.

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by Blackout » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:16 am

Indeed.
What are those small tanks located in the bottom of the sidepods. The 2009 Sauber had the same...

Kersed F1.09
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/482/bmwf109kers.jpg

Not Kersed F1.09
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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by scarbs » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:42 am

Pressurised nitrogen tanks for the pneumatic valves

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by Blackout » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:54 am

Nitrogen :shock: are they allowed to use it to cool the KERS ?

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by dan928 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:12 pm

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by forty-two » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:15 pm

Did anyone else notice that the tyres in the original shots are unbranded (or airbrushed, although I doubt it as they have red dots on them and I don't think they'd have bothered to "insert" those when airbrushing) and the final image clearly shows Bridgestone's?
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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by Byronrhys » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:22 pm

forty-two wrote:Did anyone else notice that the tyres in the original shots are unbranded (or airbrushed, although I doubt it as they have red dots on them and I don't think they'd have bothered to "insert" those when airbrushing) and the final image clearly shows Bridgestone's?
If you mean the photo above yours That's the C29, Kamui's first seat fitting.

here is Kamui's 2011 C30 seat fitting with some more interesting shots.

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by Holm86 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:30 pm

Are they hiding an extra air-intake underneath the airbox with all that tape?? Perhaps a cooling intake for the KERS?

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by PlatinumZealot » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:53 pm

it's just a mock-up guys.. That aint no C30.
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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by forty-two » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:57 pm

Byronrhys wrote: If you mean the photo above yours That's the C29, Kamui's first seat fitting.
DOH! Yes, I did mean that, and you're absolutely right, my mistake!
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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by Blackout » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:05 pm

n smikle wrote:it's just a mock-up guys.. That aint no C30.
The mock up is certainly very close, if not identical, to the real chassis.
And this incomplete chassis is too 'interesting' to be a false approximative chassis...

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Re: Sauber-Ferrari C30

Post by ESPImperium » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:28 pm

Blackout wrote:
n smikle wrote:it's just a mock-up guys.. That aint no C30.
The mock up is certainly very close, if not identical, to the real chassis.
And this incomplete chassis is too 'interesting' to be a false approximative chassis...
It isnt a mock up. Sauber have traditionally had chassis number 01 as the one they do the seat fit in. Mercedes are a team that do the same.

Some teams use mockups like McLaren and Team Lotus, others use chassis 01 as the real deal as then they can make changes to 02 and onward if needed. As you can see they have already changes the air box from the BMW era traditional straight triangle to the short tubby triangle.

The chassis is about 5-7 days away from being finalised by those pics, they have probably a couple of refinements id recon to do, mainly arround the airbox would be my hunch.