2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by PlatinumZealot » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:54 pm

Barring rain, I wanna see a four way battle between the MErc and williams drivers....
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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by oT v1 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:24 am

Erm, just think back to the first corner in Aus! They were sliding and lifting on the way out of that one. I think they'll lift through eau rouge 'for sure'!
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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Rybo » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:23 am

oT v1 wrote:Erm, just think back to the first corner in Aus! They were sliding and lifting on the way out of that one. I think they'll lift through eau rouge 'for sure'!
Everyone has brought updates forward to bring back the lost downforce. How's the cars performed in Australia has no bearing in how they will do at Spa. The only thing that is for sure is that the teams will go as fast as they can. My money is on Eau Rouge being flat, but only time will tell.

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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by gray41 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:54 pm

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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by strad » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:01 pm

Q&A with Lotus’s Nick Chester: We’ve learnt our lessons (F1)

“Q: How does the level of downforce generated in 2014 compare to last year?
NC: It is a little down, but not much. When we started developing for the 2014 regs we were a long way down and then we had a very good build-up theory and we got to a level that we were reasonably pleased with.”
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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Pierce89 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:26 pm

oT v1 wrote:Erm, just think back to the first corner in Aus! They were sliding and lifting on the way out of that one. I think they'll lift through eau rouge 'for sure'!
Eau Rouge is flat in lmp1 cars, it's been flat in f1 for ages. It'll still be flat, they haven't lost that much df.
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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Shrieker » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:41 pm

Eau Rouge is not a flat corner. I'm certain it's got a fair bit of ondulations.

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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by strad » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:24 pm

I repeat and concur with Pierce, It's been flat since before some of you started watching.
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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Kingshark » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:05 am

I always thought that Blanchimont was more of a corner than Eau Rouge. Blanchimont is quite a sharp corner, much sharper than it looks on a map. I doubt the current F1 cars will be able to take it flat out with race fuel onboard. On the other hand, to me, Eau Rouge is just a few kinks with incredible altitude change. Eau Rouge has been flat for at least 10 years now. I see more drivers lifting for Blanchimont than for Eau Rouge.

Pouhon, now that is a real beast of a corner.
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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Juzh » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:40 am

strad wrote:
Q&A with Lotus’s Nick Chester: We’ve learnt our lessons (F1)

“Q: How does the level of downforce generated in 2014 compare to last year?
NC: It is a little down, but not much. When we started developing for the 2014 regs we were a long way down and then we had a very good build-up theory and we got to a level that we were reasonably pleased with.”
:lol: :lol: :lol: bullsh1t is strong with this one

Pierce89 wrote:
oT v1 wrote:Erm, just think back to the first corner in Aus! They were sliding and lifting on the way out of that one. I think they'll lift through eau rouge 'for sure'!
Eau Rouge is flat in lmp1 cars, it's been flat in f1 for ages. It'll still be flat, they haven't lost that much df.
lol

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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Pierce89 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:10 pm

Juzh wrote:
strad wrote:
Q&A with Lotus’s Nick Chester: We’ve learnt our lessons (F1)

“Q: How does the level of downforce generated in 2014 compare to last year?
NC: It is a little down, but not much. When we started developing for the 2014 regs we were a long way down and then we had a very good build-up theory and we got to a level that we were reasonably pleased with.”
:lol: :lol: :lol: bullsh1t is strong with this one

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oT v1 wrote:Erm, just think back to the first corner in Aus! They were sliding and lifting on the way out of that one. I think they'll lift through eau rouge 'for sure'!
Eau Rouge is flat in lmp1 cars, it's been flat in f1 for ages. It'll still be flat, they haven't lost that much df.
lol
I think you may be confusing Eau Rouge with Radillon.
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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Pierce89 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:14 pm

SectorOne wrote:it´s a simulator as well so we have to wait for reality to make a definite answer.

But from the simulator we can deduce that Eau Rouge is not flat, Paul Frere is flat and Blanchimont is flat.
Also Paul Frere corner, was it not called Fagnes earlier or where am i getting that word from?
Fagnes is the same as the Piff Paff(the chicane(or chicesse) after Pouhon).Corner Paul Frere is just the "bend" before Blanchimont not really a corner
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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Juzh » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:17 pm

Pierce89 wrote: I think you may be confusing Eau Rouge with Radillon.
I think you might be right. Joke's on me #-o

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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by beelsebob » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:18 pm

Notably in the video above, Lewis said "Eau Rouge is usually flat, but not quite this time". Which suggest that Mercedes will be very very borderline on whether they can do it flat out. That suggests to me that at most Merc and RedBull are going to be flat through it.

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Re: 2014 Belgian GP - Spa-Francorchamps

Post by Sevach » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:12 pm

SectorOne wrote: Senna and Schumacher if i´m not mistaken.
What first race Schumacher :shock:
His car was down on power and had good aero...