Qualifying-Race as a new possibility

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MtthsMlw
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adb wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 14:57
Are we sure that AMuS wasn't just fooled on April Fools' day? Especially this "no tyre and fuel limitations" sounds just idiotic
The article was published today on April 2nd.

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FrukostScones
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No they have those plans for a while now , even before Liberty. Sad stuff.
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Praying its an 'April Fool's', but this isnt the first time this ridiculous change has been proposed and received equally negative reception. They just don't seem to learn.

If true: Very bad ideas, which is becoming the trend for Liberty & FOM changes.

There is nothing wrong with Practice sessions or Qualifying. Practice sessions are the beat part of the weekend. Qualifying is perfect, intense and exciting. Their proposes create nothing, it only damages the sport by subtracting what is actually working.

Do fans really want to be cattle herded past cars, to take a blurry photo? or do they want to see them tearing round the track. If anything Practice sessions on a Friday should be increased to 2 hours each. They wrecked the "value for money" Friday when they took away GP3 and F2 sessions and replaced it by the worthless two seater experience, great, we get to see one car ferry around a super rich elitist instead of seeing another formula full session. Thanks.

Thursday should be for the "experiences" and for fans to get closer, devote a day for it, so you can accommodate the 1000s that turn up

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MtthsMlw wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 15:05
adb wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 14:57
Are we sure that AMuS wasn't just fooled on April Fools' day? Especially this "no tyre and fuel limitations" sounds just idiotic
The article was published today on April 2nd.
I've noticed, meant that AMuS misunderstood somebody and passed it as an actual news
Monster Hesh wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 15:35
Praying its an 'April Fool's', but this isnt the first time this ridiculous change has been proposed and received equally negative reception. They just don't seem to learn.

If true: Very bad ideas, which is becoming the trend for Liberty & FOM changes.

There is nothing wrong with Practice sessions or Qualifying. Practice sessions are the beat part of the weekend. Qualifying is perfect, intense and exciting. Their proposes create nothing, it only damages the sport by subtracting what is actually working.

Do fans really want to be cattle herded past cars, to take a blurry photo? or do they want to see them tearing round the track. If anything Practice sessions on a Friday should be increased to 2 hours each. They wrecked the "value for money" Friday when they took away GP3 and F2 sessions and replaced it by the worthless two seater experience, great, we get to see one car ferry around a super rich elitist instead of seeing another formula full session. Thanks.

Thursday should be for the "experiences" and for fans to get closer, devote a day for it, so you can accommodate the 1000s that turn up
Agree, it seems as if Liberty is trying to flip everything on its head just for the sake of it, instead of focusing on the more important things. If they keep at it, they will just create an even bigger mess by changing things that actually work

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Sounds good, but they need to have a separate engine pool for those races if they all will run flat out.

santos
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What does mean "no tire tyre limitation"? Will they make a sprint race with the slowest tyre?

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There's simply no point adjusting any part of the qualifying/race format or even the tyre and engine format until Ross Brawn and his team have finished the overtaking research and implementing the aerodynamic rules. It could really have more effect than changing any other thing about F1.

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Liberty seems to solely look at how to draw young people's attention. The idea is to give them a kind of an appetiser for Sunday and this way convince them that the main race is going to be interesting. They probably think that not many people would waste their time watching a 1.5 - 2 hours race without knowing if it's going to suit their taste.

I also find this not a good idea. Especially for longtime/experienced fans which most of us are. It most likely would not dramatically change the starting grid. It would just make teams spend even more money and have more stress.
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zac510 wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 20:13
There's simply no point adjusting any part of the qualifying/race format or even the tyre and engine format until Ross Brawn and his team have finished the overtaking research and implementing the aerodynamic rules. It could really have more effect than changing any other thing about F1.
This. Until Ross and his team sort aero out, any temporary changes Liberty will try, will do more harm than good, especially considering how bad some of their ideas are. Leave racing part to Brawn and his team.

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They should just have a damned spec race on Saturday after FP3, let the drivers shine. Ea h manufacturer can bring a car of their choice, run them as part of promoting their brand, Honda, Renault, Ferrari, Mercedes.

Everyone wins, the fans, the manufacturers and Liberty. Give Alonso something to try and win. ;)
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I can see some sense in having a 1 hr race style qualifying, with settings locked from that point, as the race engine would have to be used 'as is' and not in a special short run mode.
However, as others have said, Qualli is one of the things no one seems to have issues with. A race for reserve drivers would be better use of the extended session though.
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Big Tea wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 22:28
I can see some sense in having a 1 hr race style qualifying, with settings locked from that point, as the race engine would have to be used 'as is' and not in a special short run mode.
I can't see any sense. It'd just be one long race with a break in the middle. It wouldn't even be significantly different to a regular race that's been red flagged and restarted.

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adb wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 14:57
Are we sure that AMuS wasn't just fooled on April Fools' day? Especially this "no tyre and fuel limitations" sounds just idiotic
Fair question, the site i use, gptoday, collates all the various stories and it is notorious for april fools stories

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What I'd like to know is how the grid spots would be determined for the sprint race?

toraabe
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And an extra 6 points for fastest lap during race.