2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by LM10 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:01 pm

MtthsMlw wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:18 am
Vasconia wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:04 am
dans79 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:41 am


huh?
In this official statement he doesn´t mention the aero thing. I was just pointing out this.
Well the aero thing will most likely be a very small change just like in most of the previous races.

Edit:
Apparently they'll bring a new diffuser and floor.
What Vasconia meant was that in the link he sent Arrivabene was not quoted as having told that Ferrari will have trouble because Silverstone is an aero sensitive track. Insisting that Mercedes does have the upper hand in this regard.

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by outsid3r » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:36 pm

LM10 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:01 pm
MtthsMlw wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:18 am
Vasconia wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:04 am


In this official statement he doesn´t mention the aero thing. I was just pointing out this.
Well the aero thing will most likely be a very small change just like in most of the previous races.

Edit:
Apparently they'll bring a new diffuser and floor.
What Vasconia meant was that in the link he sent Arrivabene was not quoted as having told that Ferrari will have trouble because Silverstone is an aero sensitive track. Insisting that Mercedes does have the upper hand in this regard.
Vasconia is right there is nothing in the link, but he was in fact quoted saying that in might be difficult for ferrari this weekend. His exact words were:

"... next there is Silverstone, a race where aerodynamics are important, a race which will be difficult for us, so we must remain concentrated..."


Source (until it lasts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGllqpfRrgY

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by FrukostScones » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:40 pm

LM10 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:28 pm
FrukostScones wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:58 am
Ferrari update for Silverstone? Always was a step back or in the wrong direction. Car is fine, they should not do a thing.
I think with all this aero and Turn 1 DRS RedBull will be able to fine tune their car for another VES victory despite the tyre compounds and tread thickness. Lets hope it will still be scorching hot with mad climax thunderstorms and ALO finishing on the podium.
Do you mean Ferrari shouldn't bring updates to Silverstone or for the remaining season? :)
I'd rather have no update at all than one that is not working and kept on the car because of facesaving.
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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by F1NAC » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:59 pm

FrukostScones wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:40 pm
LM10 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:28 pm
FrukostScones wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:58 am
Ferrari update for Silverstone? Always was a step back or in the wrong direction. Car is fine, they should not do a thing.
I think with all this aero and Turn 1 DRS RedBull will be able to fine tune their car for another VES victory despite the tyre compounds and tread thickness. Lets hope it will still be scorching hot with mad climax thunderstorms and ALO finishing on the podium.
Do you mean Ferrari shouldn't bring updates to Silverstone or for the remaining season? :)
I'd rather have no update at all than one that is not working and kept on the car because of facesaving.
When did Ferrari have an update that didn't work? From 2017 onwards? (maybe that suspension in Spain)

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by Manfer » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:10 pm

F1NAC wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:59 pm
FrukostScones wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:40 pm
LM10 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:28 pm


Do you mean Ferrari shouldn't bring updates to Silverstone or for the remaining season? :)
I'd rather have no update at all than one that is not working and kept on the car because of facesaving.
When did Ferrari have an update that didn't work? From 2017 onwards? (maybe that suspension in Spain)
Everything that they have gotten this season has been on the car. Even the suspension. They have used the same suspension setup since Spain. Maybe they had not figured out how best to setup the car to the new tyres at Barcelona.
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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by DVB » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:34 pm

Ferrari bringing a new floor to Silverstone. Speeded up the introduction to serve an answer at Mercedes and trying not to get behind. Should improve performance in high speed corners.
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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by LM10 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:46 pm

Manfer wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:10 pm
F1NAC wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:59 pm
FrukostScones wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:40 pm


I'd rather have no update at all than one that is not working and kept on the car because of facesaving.
When did Ferrari have an update that didn't work? From 2017 onwards? (maybe that suspension in Spain)
Everything that they have gotten this season has been on the car. Even the suspension. They have used the same setup since Spain. Maybe they had not figured out how best to setup the car to the new tyres at Barcelona.
The bargeboards, floor and diffuser which has been put on the car throughout the season had already been on the car in winter testing?

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by Vanja #66 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:53 pm

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Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:32 am
Whoa, easy there. Just asking a question lol. I mean, I was impressed that the gap in qualifying was as big as it was on a track where I expected to measure the gap in hundredths, not tenths.

And I've seen your comments in that thread. I must've missed the why as to why you don't think it's functional in a significantly beneficial way. Look forward to that post.
Jesus, do I have to use a smiley every time I write something neutral that might sound pissed off? :D And yeah, I'm pissed off because of intentional false tech reports by "expert journos"...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by Manfer » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:01 pm

LM10 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:46 pm
Manfer wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:10 pm
F1NAC wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:59 pm

When did Ferrari have an update that didn't work? From 2017 onwards? (maybe that suspension in Spain)
Everything that they have gotten this season has been on the car. Even the suspension. They have used the same setup since Spain. Maybe they had not figured out how best to setup the car to the new tyres at Barcelona.
The bargeboards, floor and diffuser which has been put on the car throughout the season had already been on the car in winter testing?
I believe you misunderstood me. I meant to say all the upgrades they have bought through the season has stayed on the car and has not been rejected as a "negative upgrade" or an upgrade that did not work as intended. So we can fairly assume that their correlation issues are behind them now.

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by LM10 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:09 pm

Manfer wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:01 pm
LM10 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:46 pm
Manfer wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:10 pm


Everything that they have gotten this season has been on the car. Even the suspension. They have used the same setup since Spain. Maybe they had not figured out how best to setup the car to the new tyres at Barcelona.
The bargeboards, floor and diffuser which has been put on the car throughout the season had already been on the car in winter testing?
I believe you misunderstood me. I meant to say all the upgrades they have bought through the season has stayed on the car and has not been rejected as a "negative upgrade" or an upgrade that did not work as intended. So we can fairly assume that their correlation issues are behind them now.
Oh, alright! My bad. :)

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by PlatinumZealot » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:27 am

Schumix wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:19 am
Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:19 pm
GrayGreat wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:37 pm
. Plus Hamilton has a habit of talking bull**** whenever he's overtaken or about to be overtaken so I don't believe whatever he said on the radio.
He mentioned power issues a while before he was overtaken.
I don't remember how many times we heard Hamilton claiming in the radio that he was facing troubles (tyre degradation or loss of power) and in the same time he slamed the lap record of the race!

Whatever is the reason, any race driver can be overtaken and defeated as it was the case for Hamilton.

The understanding of some technical people now is that Mercedes brought major upgrades that really work great but in the same time these upgrades apply too much load and stress on the tyres and the whole package. This is why they are in trouble in dirty air. When they are in clean air in front of the race, they achieve to manage their tyres whatever the type is.
Their opponents know that Mercedes is on the edge for the tyre management in dirty air and they will make the most of it by pushing them. It is so simple...
Erm not really. hamilton was stymied by daniel entering the pits then Vettel got DRS and it was over right there. The pit entry is on the apex of the last turn. Even Brundle commented on it.
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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by probenprinz » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:24 am

PlatinumZealot wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:27 am
Schumix wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:19 am
Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:19 pm


He mentioned power issues a while before he was overtaken.
I don't remember how many times we heard Hamilton claiming in the radio that he was facing troubles (tyre degradation or loss of power) and in the same time he slamed the lap record of the race!

Whatever is the reason, any race driver can be overtaken and defeated as it was the case for Hamilton.

The understanding of some technical people now is that Mercedes brought major upgrades that really work great but in the same time these upgrades apply too much load and stress on the tyres and the whole package. This is why they are in trouble in dirty air. When they are in clean air in front of the race, they achieve to manage their tyres whatever the type is.
Their opponents know that Mercedes is on the edge for the tyre management in dirty air and they will make the most of it by pushing them. It is so simple...
Erm not really. hamilton was stymied by daniel entering the pits then Vettel got DRS and it was over right there. The pit entry is on the apex of the last turn. Even Brundle commented on it.
Vettel have not used DRS in the overtake, there's plenty of footage showing the car with DRS closed.

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by NathanOlder » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:19 am

Why did Vettel not use DRS ?
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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by probenprinz » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:21 am

NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:19 am
Why did Vettel not use DRS ?
Dunno.
Wild guess: he was out of 1s at the check point.

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Re: 2018 British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 6-8

Post by NathanOlder » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:38 am

probenprinz wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:21 am
NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:19 am
Why did Vettel not use DRS ?
Dunno.
Wild guess: he was out of 1s at the check point.
If thats the case, It shows how badly Lewis was held up by the Red Bull.
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