2018 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa Francorchamps, 24-26 August

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Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa Francorchamps, 24-26 August

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LM10 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:22 pm
GPR-A wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:11 pm
digitalrurouni wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:33 pm
Any time Lewis does not top an FP1 usually means he will not win. Wonder if that pattern holds.
Spain, Azerbaijan, Germany, Hungary. He won all of them without topping FP1.
Baku was major luck. In Germany and Hungary little miracles would have been necessary for Ham to win, if it didn’t rain.

But these are finished races. Let’s move on.
Jesus he was just correcting someone who said ham never does particularly well when he doesn't top Practice 1. When in fact he has won 4 times this season. Yet you need to mention the good luck bad luck BS
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Andres125sx wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:16 pm
p18-p20 in fp1, and p16-p20 in fp2, it looks like it will be a great GP for McLaren :shock: :lol: :lol: :oops: #-o
somehow a fitting final weekend for Stoffel in F1. At least he has some family and friends around for his home grand prix

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NathanOlder wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:52 pm
LM10 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:22 pm
GPR-A wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:11 pm
Spain, Azerbaijan, Germany, Hungary. He won all of them without topping FP1.
Baku was major luck. In Germany and Hungary little miracles would have been necessary for Ham to win, if it didn’t rain.

But these are finished races. Let’s move on.
Jesus he was just correcting someone who said ham never does particularly well when he doesn't top Practice 1. When in fact he has won 4 times this season. Yet you need to mention the good luck bad luck BS
Calm down, man. :) I was, on the other hand, telling that digitalrourani was more or less right and tried to explain my statement. I had the same impressions as him. That’s it.

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perez onboard lap fp2


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I hope for a vettel crush just to have Ferrari focus on Kimi winning :D :twisted: :twisted: =D>

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Hey Juzh, yelistener from youtube.
Last year's summer break pu upgrade was really good. In quali they reached the same BSP1 speed as 2016 (in races before spa it was usually 7-10kph lower). Probably will not be the same this year as top-speed-wise 2018 dropped quite a lot comparing to 2017.

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Wow. Ted Kravitz is just the worst. Smh.

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Force India seems to have got some solid pace. They are comfortably ahead of the mid field and closer to Red Bull. Perez's long run is also very impressive. He was slightly ahead of Hulk on long runs, while on single lap, he seems to be quite far ahead. Looks like new PU and their own upgrades are working fine for them, although Ocon had some problems with his car related to tyre puncture.

Haas reported that they were struggling with MGU-K issue, which is not delivering full power.

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search wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:59 pm
Andres125sx wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:16 pm
p18-p20 in fp1, and p16-p20 in fp2, it looks like it will be a great GP for McLaren :shock: :lol: :lol: :oops: #-o
somehow a fitting final weekend for Stoffel in F1. At least he has some family and friends around for his home grand prix
Like it is his fault the car keeps falling apart. Either sabotage by McLaren to clear the way or utter imcompetence.

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Chuckjr wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:34 am
Wow. Ted Kravitz is just the worst. Smh.
Go on....
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yelistener wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:05 am
Hey Juzh, yelistener from youtube.
Last year's summer break pu upgrade was really good. In quali they reached the same BSP1 speed as 2016 (in races before spa it was usually 7-10kph lower). Probably will not be the same this year as top-speed-wise 2018 dropped quite a lot comparing to 2017.
Halo added lots of drag, also some weight.

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atanatizante wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:16 pm
Juzh wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:38 pm

FP2

https://i.imgur.com/BUddA7l.jpg
It seems that regarding BSP1 (on the Kemel straight) there were some good tows after all:

- Kimi did 341km/h, Bottas 350, Ricci 340, Max 338, Leclerc 345 and Sainz 347!!! ...
- Then Lewis did only 334 and Vettel 333 ... so no tow or just using lower PU modes?
Everything above ~335 for merc/ferrari and ~325 for renault powered cars obviously included slipstream at some point during FP.

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Juzh wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:09 am
yelistener wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:05 am
Hey Juzh, yelistener from youtube.
Last year's summer break pu upgrade was really good. In quali they reached the same BSP1 speed as 2016 (in races before spa it was usually 7-10kph lower). Probably will not be the same this year as top-speed-wise 2018 dropped quite a lot comparing to 2017.
Halo added lots of drag, also some weight.
Plus, no more oil burning. :wink:

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Juzh wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:09 am
yelistener wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:05 am
Hey Juzh, yelistener from youtube.
Last year's summer break pu upgrade was really good. In quali they reached the same BSP1 speed as 2016 (in races before spa it was usually 7-10kph lower). Probably will not be the same this year as top-speed-wise 2018 dropped quite a lot comparing to 2017.
Halo added lots of drag, also some weight.
Halo is definitely a pain in the ass. But I think the 3-engine rule also played a critical factor. v6t never reached the RPM limit partily because of the 5-engine rule, and obviously it got a lot worse in 2019 when it was down to 3.

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Juzh wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:09 am
yelistener wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:05 am
Hey Juzh, yelistener from youtube.
Last year's summer break pu upgrade was really good. In quali they reached the same BSP1 speed as 2016 (in races before spa it was usually 7-10kph lower). Probably will not be the same this year as top-speed-wise 2018 dropped quite a lot comparing to 2017.
Halo added lots of drag, also some weight.
Yeah the halo added about 1 point of drag, a fairly insignificant amount compared to the total of the car (or about 5kW or 7bhp or Power at 300km/hr which is a smaller deficit than the power gain from the PUs since last year). Cars have been quicker around most tracks this season (excl' Azerbaijan and wet) by between 0.5 and 3s - which indicates a lot more downforce, hence more induced drag.

They also have fewer power units for the season now so they have to be more careful in practice and races with the engine modes and ERS deployment. The difference between fastest quali and fastest race laps this year has typically been 3 to 4.5s, which is all about PU management. They do a lot of clipping, where they get to a constant RPM and speed then just stop accelerating, which is balancing the MGU-H charging, fuel flow, lap-time. All the teams are doing that between Paul Frere, Blanchimont, and the chicane here in P1 and P2.
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