2018 United States Grand Prix - Austin, 19-21 October

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Re: 2018 United States Grand Prix - Austin, 19-21 October

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turbof1 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:05 pm
You peeps really need to start to put two and two together :lol: . Her bio mentions italian translation. Poster says the source was motorsport.com. A quick search on the italian motorsport.com yields this:
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/caso- ... o/3200232/

I have to say that only the italian motorsport.com is reporting this (at this moment of writing). I'm putting doubts on the credibility until confirmation from more sources (including the global motorsport.com)
Sadly, with the bad resolution on the stream we can't see ---...
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siskue2005 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:55 pm
bosyber wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:23 pm
Also a possible reason: twitter user @Vetteleclerc posted:
http://Motorsport.com have understood that Mercedes had to close hub and rim holes with silicone. A move that the FIA has demanded, but without making any public communication. #F1
(how does one post a tweet here by the way?)

So if that's true, then the articles earlier this week that said those wheel rims were perfectly legal were not quite the full truth, and in combination with Friday time loss, and that late pressure increase, they seem back to their situation earlier in the year with tyres. At least it would explain those somewhat obscure 'other things' Hamilton referred to as to why they didn't win it.
no reliable source? just some random guy on twitter?
Obvioulsy a total troll posting. No evidence given and the web site referenced doesn't have anything on it. Typical "post something on the internet and it becomes the truth" rubbish. Whilst I hate to quote D Trump, it's "fake news".
Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"

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Found another one from the inside of the tire. From here it looks like it could be closed...

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:19 pm
siskue2005 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:55 pm
bosyber wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:23 pm
Also a possible reason: twitter user @Vetteleclerc posted:
(how does one post a tweet here by the way?)

So if that's true, then the articles earlier this week that said those wheel rims were perfectly legal were not quite the full truth, and in combination with Friday time loss, and that late pressure increase, they seem back to their situation earlier in the year with tyres. At least it would explain those somewhat obscure 'other things' Hamilton referred to as to why they didn't win it.
no reliable source? just some random guy on twitter?
Obvioulsy a total troll posting. No evidence given and the web site referenced doesn't have anything on it. Typical "post something on the internet and it becomes the truth" rubbish. Whilst I hate to quote D Trump, it's "fake news".
It’s from italian motorsport.com.

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saviour stivala wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:46 pm
GrandAxe wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:51 am
saviour stivala wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:28 am

A wise man will carefully calculate the chances of him being beaten to a bloody pulp before punching someone in the face.
The Red Bull driver’s outfit which was missing the matching cowboy’s hat is regarded as Texas cute over that side of the pound.
Was not only happy for Kimi Riakkonen winning the race but also impressed having actually see him smile, also impressed with the respect shown to the General who presented him with his trophy by removing his cap, how many F1 drivers in this era have done military service? To see him in uniform “Kimi Riakkonen during his army days” m.imgur.com. But it doesn’t show him hiding in a ditch when drunk to avoid military police looking for him.
Erm ... Lewis is a black belt.
He out to start punching others in the face than provided he have his black belt on.
No one needs to punch anyone in the face or do anything similarly primitive.

I was just informing that Lewis is a black belt, making your comment on the possibility of anyone beating him to a "bloody pulp" quite remote.

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GrandAxe wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:26 pm
saviour stivala wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:46 pm
GrandAxe wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:51 am


Erm ... Lewis is a black belt.
He out to start punching others in the face than provided he have his black belt on.
No one needs to punch anyone in the face or do anything similarly primitive.

I was just informing that Lewis is a black belt, making your comment on the possibility of anyone beating him to a "bloody pulp" quite remote.
Grandaxe, it wasn't meant serious. If you follow the line of quotes, you'll see it is a running joke.
#AeroFrodo

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LM10 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:24 pm


It’s from italian motorsport.com.
It's the only bit that is carrying the story, however, and it appears to be a speculation piece. Italian media having a dig at Ferrari's main rival? If that was the British media having a dig at Ferrari, people on here would be shouting how terrible and biased the British media are etc.

Let's wait and see if we get confirmation from elsewhere first, like, perhaps the FIA.

I'd be more supportive of the idea that Mercedes weren't helped by the late change in minimum tyre pressures, to be honest. That I could see as causing an issue one way or another.

I think, however, that Ferrari's resurgence actually meant that the Mercedes need to be driven harder to keep up and this meant they cooked the tyres. It was just like early season, before Ferrari appears to have aerodynamically dropped the ball with their update package.
Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"

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turbof1 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:28 pm
GrandAxe wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:26 pm
saviour stivala wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:46 pm

He out to start punching others in the face than provided he have his black belt on.
No one needs to punch anyone in the face or do anything similarly primitive.

I was just informing that Lewis is a black belt, making your comment on the possibility of anyone beating him to a "bloody pulp" quite remote.
Grandaxe, it wasn't meant serious. If you follow the line of quotes, you'll see it is a running joke.
Oh, I see. Thanks.

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just roll with the punches!
Just a personal interest, a Family recreating a WW2 May 1940 Dutch warbird from scratch: https://www.facebook.com/FlyingFokkerD21/

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LM10 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:24 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:19 pm
siskue2005 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:55 pm


no reliable source? just some random guy on twitter?
Obvioulsy a total troll posting. No evidence given and the web site referenced doesn't have anything on it. Typical "post something on the internet and it becomes the truth" rubbish. Whilst I hate to quote D Trump, it's "fake news".
It’s from italian motorsport.com.
Is somone really trying to claim the the FIA mandated the use of a materiel that can't withstand temperatures above 300°C a few centimeters from breaks disks that routinely see 1000-1200°C. :wtf: ](*,)

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:29 pm
I'd be more supportive of the idea that Mercedes weren't helped by the late change in minimum tyre pressures, to be honest. That I could see as causing an issue one way or another.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13957 ... --hamilton
Mercedes changed the water pumps on both its cars ahead of the race after identifying problems after qualifying, when the component on Valtteri Bottas's W09 had a leak and data on Hamilton's car also indicated an issue.
He said: "You saw the car was in a million pieces [at the start of the day] so it wasn't ideal for the race.

"Probably if we hadn't had to have a morning like that, our race outcome would have been a bit different."
"But there was more on top of that, which we've just been talking about - and to how much of an extent that is," said Hamilton.

"In the race there was some debris, some damage on the floor, all these different things add up.

"A couple of tenths in floor damage, [but you] have to assume everyone else had the same thing.

"We had another problem that we just discovered but we don't know how much time that is."
Hamilton would not elaborate on that problem, but described it as an "outlier" that he struggled for pace and used his tyres aggressively.

"We were forced into a two-stop race for certain things we had that weren't ideal with the car," he said.

"We didn't know that was going to be the case when we got into the race.

"If we hadn't had the problem we've had, tyre usage wouldn't have been anywhere near as big an issue as we had."
Mercedes technical director James Allison suggested the team had suffered from the lack of dry running until Saturday morning.

"We normally get the car in a happier place than this, but with Friday being washed out we were blind to the problems we experienced today," he said.

"They were cruelly exposed today and they led to the disappointing outcome."

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dans79 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:31 pm
LM10 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:24 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:19 pm

Obvioulsy a total troll posting. No evidence given and the web site referenced doesn't have anything on it. Typical "post something on the internet and it becomes the truth" rubbish. Whilst I hate to quote D Trump, it's "fake news".
It’s from italian motorsport.com.
Is somone really trying to claim the the FIA mandated the use of a materiel that can't withstand temperatures above 300°C a few centimeters from breaks disks that routinely see 1000-1200°C. :wtf: ](*,)
come to think of it, u r right

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dans79 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:31 pm
Is somone really trying to claim the the FIA mandated the use of a materiel that can't withstand temperatures above 300°C a few centimeters from breaks disks that routinely see 1000-1200°C. :wtf: ](*,)
Is someone really trying to claim, that the rims, who are made of magnesium, which has a melting point of 650 degrees, are directly exposed to temperatures between 1000 and 1200 degrees?
Is that one also aware that one can simply place an internet order for a few packages of high temperature silicon glue that can withstand >600 degrees?
:wink:

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gandharva wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:55 pm
Is someone really trying to claim, that the rims, who are made of magnesium, which has a melting point of 650 degrees, are directly exposed to temperatures between 1000 and 1200 degrees?
Is that one also aware that one can simply place an internet order for a few packages of high temperature silicon glue that can withstand >600 degrees?
:wink:
Magnesium is a good thermal conductor, Silicone not so much. high temp glue now is it? this entire thing sounds like tin foil stupidity.

The FIA wouldn't tell them to fill holes with $5 tube of silicone, they tell them a week or more before hand they can't use them period. They aren't a bunch of country hicks racing beaters on a dirt track.

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Perhaps someone who is a Twit user could ask them whether they were required to change the wheels / fill holes with glue etc...
Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"