2018 Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 9-11 November

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Probably trying to increase the show by making the tyres misbehave and blister.
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I can't find anything about it online yet. What's the source? And by what amount?

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Mercedes changed back to their higher downforce spoon wing after setting their initial times on the low downforce flatter wing.

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Sierra117 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:01 pm
Why the heck are Pirelli increasing tyre pressures again? :S What am I missing?
Paul DiResta was mentioning that it is 23 PSi for this race and he was telling that, 10 years back, it was around 16 to 17 PSi. That difference takes away a hell lot of performance from tyres. Pirelli need to get their act together.

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GrandAxe wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:10 pm
Mercedes changed back to their higher downforce spoon wing after setting their initial times on the low downforce flatter wing.
This is what's been confusing to me. Thnx for explanation.

GPR -A wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:14 pm
Sierra117 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:01 pm
Why the heck are Pirelli increasing tyre pressures again? :S What am I missing?
Paul DiResta was mentioning that it is 23 PSi for this race and he was telling that, 10 years back, it was around 16 to 17 PSi. That difference takes away a hell lot of performance from tyres. Pirelli need to get their act together.
Nothing has changed basically since pirelli got into F1, so don't expect that anything suddenly will. Tires now have more grip after 7 years of development and increased width, but their construction and compunds are just as bad as they've always been. If anyting, 2017 tires being waaay too hard were actually the best ones they produced.

Lack of ambition to invest and improve by pirelli in this single supplier era is really taking a toll on racing in F1. I bet all my money if michelin got the contract their tires would already be a lot better in their first year of suply. Without question. Remember what people were saying in lmp, michelins are bulletproof, pirellis are cheese tires.

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GrandAxe wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:10 pm
Mercedes changed back to their higher downforce spoon wing after setting their initial times on the low downforce flatter wing.
The spoon wing produces more df? I would say it's the opposite?

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MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:31 pm
GrandAxe wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:10 pm
Mercedes changed back to their higher downforce spoon wing after setting their initial times on the low downforce flatter wing.
The spoon wing produces more df? I would say it's the opposite?
It does. Being spoon shaped it's got a deeper aoe. Also has more drag.

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Juzh wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:33 pm
MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:31 pm
GrandAxe wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:10 pm
Mercedes changed back to their higher downforce spoon wing after setting their initial times on the low downforce flatter wing.
The spoon wing produces more df? I would say it's the opposite?
It does. Being spoon shaped it's got a deeper aoe. Also has more drag.
I've always thought it's different. Less df and less drag. Trying to achieve the best compromise.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:40 pm
Juzh wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:33 pm
MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:31 pm


The spoon wing produces more df? I would say it's the opposite?
It does. Being spoon shaped it's got a deeper aoe. Also has more drag.
I've always thought it's different. Less df and less drag. Trying to achieve the best compromise.
Depends on the AOE of the flat wing comapred to spoon I think. Judging by the sector times they most likely did go with the higher DF.

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Is this oil coming out of the Mercedes of Hamilton?

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LM10 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:08 pm
Is this oil coming out of the Mercedes of Hamilton?
Definitely something that burned or vaporized. Looked blueish. Just like in FP3.

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Will Merc do a engine switch in order to prevent a DNF from Hamilton or Bottas?

Could better switch both engines now they have the WDC confirmed. Easy top 5 for both if they need to start at the end of the pack.
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MtthsMlw wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:15 pm
LM10 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:08 pm
Is this oil coming out of the Mercedes of Hamilton?
Definitely something that burned or vaporized. Looked blueish. Just like in FP3.
Didn’t they fix that during FP3?

What I found weird was that Mercedes, well known for being relatively relaxed when it comes to car parts, built a wall with all available mechanics to avoid pictures during reparature.

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They should give penalty for Hamilton because he almost crashed into Sirotkin.