2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by Schuttelberg » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:15 pm

Well, at least Claire can now share the burden of incompetence with the circuit managers. Glad George is fine and have to feel for the Williams mechanics and the whole team (bar Claire). Just one of those times in sport you can't catch a break!
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by turbof1 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:16 pm

ERS pack might be damaged.
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by santos » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:18 pm

Will the FP2 have the same duration? Or will it be extended?

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by dans79 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:19 pm

erudite450 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:57 am
dans79 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:01 am
Rain is just fake drama!
No offense but that is frankly one of the most stupid things I have heard/read in a long time. A condition that tends to level the playing field a bit is somehow "just fake drama". I'm dumbfounded!
well, I think it's stupid when people want it to rain because they don't find racing in regular conditions interesting enough.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by turbof1 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:25 pm

dans79 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:19 pm
erudite450 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:57 am
dans79 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:01 am
Rain is just fake drama!
No offense but that is frankly one of the most stupid things I have heard/read in a long time. A condition that tends to level the playing field a bit is somehow "just fake drama". I'm dumbfounded!
well, I think people wanting it to rain because they don't find regular racing interesting is stupid.
I wouldn't call rain fake drama. It would be fake if it is artificial, like if they made the track wet with sprinklers. Rather, rain can make a race chaotic, and way less about your car's performance. There is always a case to be made for chaos from time to time. 2011 Canadian Grand Prix for instance. One of the most memorable races I have ever seen.

So yeah, let it rain and let the guys race. If it doesn't rain, too bad but I'll still watch of course.
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by ian_s » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:00 pm

Restomaniac wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:58 am
adrianjordan wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:55 am
If that hydraulic fluid got into the back of the Williams, what sort of issues could that cause?
I doubt being covered in oil will have helped the set of tyres either.
it was in the first 30 minutes of fp1, that set of tyres would be given back during the session anyway.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by FrukostScones » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:04 pm

santos wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:18 pm
Will the FP2 have the same duration? Or will it be extended?
will it be held?
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by Restomaniac » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:05 pm

ian_s wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:00 pm
Restomaniac wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:58 am
adrianjordan wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:55 am
If that hydraulic fluid got into the back of the Williams, what sort of issues could that cause?
I doubt being covered in oil will have helped the set of tyres either.
it was in the first 30 minutes of fp1, that set of tyres would be given back during the session anyway.
I’d forgotten about that. Thanks.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by Restomaniac » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:07 pm

turbof1 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:08 pm
Restomaniac wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:33 am
FrukostScones wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:24 am
Haas settles with Sepang Cicuit.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13899 ... ith-sepang
I think that’s a given and Williams will ultimately lose out. Something that Williams cannot afford. Like I say it’s more a case of what happens if they lose a component that will eventually cost them a grid penalty or a retirement (due to a replacement/failure choice).


I think I can remember something about that when it happened to HAAS. Although they did not have to change a PU component, they would have been allowed to make a free change if needed. But I'm not sure if I am remembering it correctly.

Would be the logical thing to do anyway. This is completely outside the team's responsibility. The team is already unfairly punished regarding putting extra man hours into rebuilding a car, plus given such cases take months to recuperate the financial damage, will put strains on the cash flow as well.
Indeed. But logic and F1 don’t always go hand in hand :x

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by Unc1eM0nty » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:16 pm

Just_a_fan wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:11 am
bosyber wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:08 am
But, even there: is a curb stone damaging the car then force majeure? Teams would try to argue it, surely.
Driving on the kerbs is not obligatory - the drivers do it because it's quicker. Their problem then.

Loose manholes are outside of the drivers' / teams' control so damage caused should be open to a "free" repair of controlled items such as the battery.
Have you seen the footage ? this was no where near a kerb or corner, it was right in the middle of the track on the racing line.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by Just_a_fan » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:29 pm

Unc1eM0nty wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:16 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:11 am
bosyber wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:08 am
But, even there: is a curb stone damaging the car then force majeure? Teams would try to argue it, surely.
Driving on the kerbs is not obligatory - the drivers do it because it's quicker. Their problem then.

Loose manholes are outside of the drivers' / teams' control so damage caused should be open to a "free" repair of controlled items such as the battery.
Have you seen the footage ? this was no where near a kerb or corner, it was right in the middle of the track on the racing line.
Try reading what I wrote and what I was responding to, not what you think I wrote.
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by FrukostScones » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:43 pm

FrukostScones wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:04 pm
santos wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:18 pm
Will the FP2 have the same duration? Or will it be extended?
will it be held?
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14295 ... n-schedule
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by NathanOlder » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:45 pm

Just_a_fan wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:29 pm
Unc1eM0nty wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:16 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:11 am

Driving on the kerbs is not obligatory - the drivers do it because it's quicker. Their problem then.

Loose manholes are outside of the drivers' / teams' control so damage caused should be open to a "free" repair of controlled items such as the battery.
Have you seen the footage ? this was no where near a kerb or corner, it was right in the middle of the track on the racing line.
Try reading what I wrote and what I was responding to, not what you think I wrote.
:lol: was thinking the same thing.
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by WaikeCU » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:50 pm

Baku is just a track where a big accident is just waiting to happen.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by ian_s » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:53 pm

I can see it happening, on the first lap the leader crashes somewhere near the castle, on the really tight bit, and the next 5 or 6 drivers pile in. Mercedes, Ferrari and Red bull all out on the first lap.