2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by digitalrurouni » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:40 pm

zibby43 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:26 am
Merc just had a brand new, redesigned, lightweight chassis pass crash tests. Don't know if this part of the Hockenheim upgrade. May not be ready in time. Just wow.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/incre ... 0/4498638/
Not sure I understood the English translation - the article is saying the Evolution chassis WILL be there in Hockenheim or not!?

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by SiLo » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:36 pm

I think it's meant to be there, I'm sure Mercedes confirmed it.
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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by Capharol » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:22 pm

no Mercedes isn't sure yet to use it
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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by Pyrone89 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:51 pm

My bet for this weekend:
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Verstappen
4. Leclerc
5. Vettel
6. Gasly
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Kvyat

Big gap between Merc and the rest, really tight battle between Red Bu... Verstappen and Ferrari. Midfield lapped.

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by ENGINE TUNER » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:04 pm

F1Krof wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:18 pm
What we need to see is VETTEL winning PERIOD.
Nope, he clearly doesn't deserve to win

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by Pyrone89 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:09 pm

ENGINE TUNER wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:04 pm
F1Krof wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:18 pm
What we need to see is VETTEL winning PERIOD.
Nope, he clearly doesn't deserve to win
Soumds a bit harsh but true nonetheless.

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by digitalrurouni » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:19 pm

Pyrone89 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:51 pm
My bet for this weekend:
1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Verstappen
4. Leclerc
5. Vettel
6. Gasly
7. Sainz
8. Ricciardo
9. Norris
10. Kvyat

Big gap between Merc and the rest, really tight battle between Red Bu... Verstappen and Ferrari. Midfield lapped.
I think mine is the same but Verstappen second.

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by Juzh » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:36 pm

This track is pretty much like silverstone, but with just a bit less emphasis on straight line performance, so the obviousness of ferrari's lack of corner speeds in silverstone can't be overlooked. Red bull will beat them in qualifying and race. Quali will be close, but in the race merc and rb will run and hide. There's a high chance even gasly will be able to beat at least one ferrari.

In terms of laptime, probably 0.3-0,5s faster than last year, as is tradition.

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by Phil » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:42 pm

ENGINE TUNER wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:04 pm
Nope, he clearly doesn't deserve to win
People should really give it rest. Every GP starts at zero. If he deserves it or not is dependant on his performance this weekend. And he does go well here.
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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by F1Krof » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:27 pm

Juzh wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:36 pm
This track is pretty much like silverstone, but with just a bit less emphasis on straight line performance, so the obviousness of ferrari's lack of corner speeds in silverstone can't be overlooked. Red bull will beat them in qualifying and race. Quali will be close, but in the race merc and rb will run and hide. There's a high chance even gasly will be able to beat at least one ferrari.

In terms of laptime, probably 0.3-0,5s faster than last year, as is tradition.
Remember, last year Merc was losing around 4 tenths on the straights in Hockehneim. So I wouldn't be too confident saying that Merc will totally run away. It's an interesting track and I say it'd suit Ferrari more than Silverstone did, and you know how close Leclerc was to pole in a track where Ferrari 'sucked'.
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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by Pyrone89 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:47 pm

The big thing is going to be the weather. A week ago it looked like Austria-like temps for the weekend, but now that weather seems to come a couple of days early and the weekend is now schedueled to have rain (yes I said the r word) and normal temperatures of 28 degrees maximum which is well within the air temperatures seen in Bahrain, Monaco, Paul Ricard, Spain etc. All races where Mercedes had zero cooling issues from what we could notice. So the only hope for a battle for the win is;
1. If the weather forecast changes again and the high temperatures do actually come in the weekend
2. Bottas has grown a bigger beard and has eaten porridge

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by djos » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:57 pm

F1Krof wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:18 pm
What we need to see is VETTEL winning PERIOD.
Vettel has proven over his career that if he doesn't start from the front row, then he's unlikely to win.
The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks.

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by yelistener » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:08 am

2004 Pole vs 2013 P2

Post-2017 cars would be mighty at Nurburgring with those long sweeping corners. Too bad this track isn't going back to F1 in the foreseeable future.


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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by ENGINE TUNER » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:07 am

Phil wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:42 pm
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:04 pm
Nope, he clearly doesn't deserve to win
People should really give it rest. Every GP starts at zero. If he deserves it or not is dependant on his performance this weekend. And he does go well here.
Goes well here? In Hockenheim? Please remind us how many wins he has at that track please.

Yes every GP starts at zero, agreed, but people are hoping he wins only because he has struggled for the last several years, not because he has shown anything to deserve it.

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

Post by zibby43 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:38 am

F1Krof wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:27 pm
Juzh wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:36 pm
This track is pretty much like silverstone, but with just a bit less emphasis on straight line performance, so the obviousness of ferrari's lack of corner speeds in silverstone can't be overlooked. Red bull will beat them in qualifying and race. Quali will be close, but in the race merc and rb will run and hide. There's a high chance even gasly will be able to beat at least one ferrari.

In terms of laptime, probably 0.3-0,5s faster than last year, as is tradition.
Remember, last year Merc was losing around 4 tenths on the straights in Hockehneim. So I wouldn't be too confident saying that Merc will totally run away. It's an interesting track and I say it'd suit Ferrari more than Silverstone did, and you know how close Leclerc was to pole in a track where Ferrari 'sucked'.
This year's car concepts for each team are quite a bit different.

Maybe the first part of the track, up to turn 8, is similar to Silverstone. Turns 3-5 and 7 are all basically flat-out.

However, the rest of the lap, from turn 8 to 17, there are few straights and several technical, challenging low-speed corners. Red Bull is going to be strong here.