2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

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ENGINE TUNER wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:07 am
Phil wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:42 pm
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:04 pm
Nope, he clearly doesn't deserve to win
People should really give it rest. Every GP starts at zero. If he deserves it or not is dependant on his performance this weekend. And he does go well here.
Goes well here? In Hockenheim? Please remind us how many wins he has at that track please.

Yes every GP starts at zero, agreed, but people are hoping he wins only because he has struggled for the last several years, not because he has shown anything to deserve it.
I hope he wins too. Because i’d rather see a Vettel at the top of his game, than one who is struggling. And admittedly, i’m getting annoyed by the constant bashing of him. His made mistakes, sure, but he’s also delivered awesome drives and poles in his career and when the car was to his liking.
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For me there are at least 5 drivers in 3 teams that I'd be glad to have the win and who might have the win, this is a great, great era in F1 let's notice and soak it up!!

A wet race with Lewis and Max could be a possibility even

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izzy wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:14 am
A wet race with Lewis and Max could be a possibility even
Hope so. Good opportunity to see what Leclerc can do in wet!

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Phil wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:47 am

I hope he wins too. Because i’d rather see a Vettel at the top of his game, than one who is struggling. And admittedly, i’m getting annoyed by the constant bashing of him. His made mistakes, sure, but he’s also delivered awesome drives and poles in his career and when the car was to his liking.
I'm sorry but bashing is totally acceptable here. Why should Vettel have immunity/special treatment by the media and fans?

He doesn't deserve a win. Leclerc deserves a win because he has been performing better lately (qualifying, podiums, race craft) plus he basically won in Bahrain but was let down by the car.
Moreover he has been screwed at least a couple of times by team strategy.

Last time Vettel was close to a win, he bottled it. You are as good as you were yesterday. That's life for everyone, not just Vettel.

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GPR -A wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:32 am
izzy wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:14 am
A wet race with Lewis and Max could be a possibility even
Hope so. Good opportunity to see what Leclerc can do in wet!
What the car can do in wet...mostly.

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marvin78 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:21 am
GPR -A wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:32 am
izzy wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:14 am
A wet race with Lewis and Max could be a possibility even
Hope so. Good opportunity to see what Leclerc can do in wet!
What the car can do in wet...mostly.
Last year both Mercedes were clearly faster in wet, so I don´t expect a lot from Ferrari if it rains.

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Even without rain, Mercedes will have a huge advantage on cool track if the weather is cloudy enough

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at the momeent the forecasts difference very much.... 1 says dry, another possible rain, and again another saying rain ...
i guess we'll have to wait till Friday to get an accurate forecast
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:shock: :shock:

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Different Livery for Mercs
Mercedes have teased a commentative white car livery for their home German GP - ahead of a race they are remaining "vigilant" about with sweltering temperatures forecast for this weekend.
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... -german-gp

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Bill_Kar wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:40 am
Phil wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:47 am

I hope he wins too. Because i’d rather see a Vettel at the top of his game, than one who is struggling. And admittedly, i’m getting annoyed by the constant bashing of him. His made mistakes, sure, but he’s also delivered awesome drives and poles in his career and when the car was to his liking.

He doesn't deserve a win. Leclerc deserves a win because he has been performing better lately (qualifying, podiums, race craft) plus he basically won in Bahrain but was let down by the car.
Moreover he has been screwed at least a couple of times by team strategy.
I never spoke of “deserving”. I simply stated i would hope he does. There’s a difference. I also dont believe past performance on a different track should have any bearing on another one. Every GP is its own race. If Vettel drives well, why should his past experience matter?

Also Leclerc might not always have received the best strategy every time, but he hasnt been ‘screwed’ either. So far, he only got suboptimal strategy when he actually performed worse than Vettel anyway.
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Usually the guy who wins the race, deserves to win the race. And no, I will absolutely not tolerate anything between the lines of "but...but...but... what about CANADA?". Shut it and swallow it :lol:
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Phil wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:35 pm
Also Leclerc might not always have received the best strategy every time, but he hasnt been ‘screwed’ either. So far, he only got suboptimal strategy when he actually performed worse than Vettel anyway.
That's not entirely accurate. In Silverstone Leclerc drove better for the entirety of the weekend and still got hung out to try by Ferrari in the pit stops. They were focused solely on Vettel.
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turbof1 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:36 pm
Shut it and swallow it :lol:
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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:59 pm
turbof1 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:36 pm
Shut it and swallow it :lol:
You are pure one-liner gold, turbo! :lol: :lol:
There's a flow rate joke in there somewhere.
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