2020 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 17-19

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The videos I saw of the alleged Albon drying fiasco suggested to me that the mechanics had blowers directing air into the radiator inlets to cool the engine or rear brakes. I don't see any attempt to dry the track and the suggestion that they dried the track where the front wheels were sitting would not make any difference to the spinning rear wheels as the lights go out.
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Restomaniac wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:39 pm
NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:36 pm
Oh, I thought it was more like an interview after complaining.
No he was moaning straight away. I had to laugh at the hypocrisy. :D
He’d be an idiot not to, to be fair. Although i do hate how the drivers ‘tell on each other’ by mentioning things on the radio to the pits, knowing full well it’s monitored, even if sometimes it’s the only way of drawing attention to something.

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"Moaning". As if. He came on the radio and calmly stated that Bottas jumped the start, which he did. It was a simple factual statement made to inform his team, because it could be favorable to their final race result.

Now, I'm as big a Vettel hater as any, but calling it complaining or moaning is.... well it's moronic.


Liberty has been trying to capture a wider audience, pandering to a lower common denominator. I wonder if that has anything to do with the apparent plummeting of average IQ displayed on this forum. Or maybe I'm just growing older and more curmudgeonly.

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El Scorchio wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:23 am
Restomaniac wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:39 pm
NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:36 pm
Oh, I thought it was more like an interview after complaining.
No he was moaning straight away. I had to laugh at the hypocrisy. :D
He’d be an idiot not to, to be fair. Although i do hate how the drivers ‘tell on each other’ by mentioning things on the radio to the pits, knowing full well it’s monitored, even if sometimes it’s the only way of drawing attention to something.
I don't think it's any different to football and basketball players over-exaggerating or faking a foul. :mrgreen: All part of the game IMO.

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El Scorchio wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:23 am
Restomaniac wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:39 pm
NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:36 pm
Oh, I thought it was more like an interview after complaining.
No he was moaning straight away. I had to laugh at the hypocrisy. :D
He’d be an idiot not to, to be fair. Although i do hate how the drivers ‘tell on each other’ by mentioning things on the radio to the pits, knowing full well it’s monitored, even if sometimes it’s the only way of drawing attention to something.
He also has a history of a complete lack of self awareness as is shown again here.

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Restomaniac wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:07 am
El Scorchio wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:23 am
Restomaniac wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:39 pm
No he was moaning straight away. I had to laugh at the hypocrisy. :D
He’d be an idiot not to, to be fair. Although i do hate how the drivers ‘tell on each other’ by mentioning things on the radio to the pits, knowing full well it’s monitored, even if sometimes it’s the only way of drawing attention to something.
He also has a history of a complete lack of self awareness as is shown again here.
He does somewhat. Although that’s a trait shared by a fair few of them!

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Sieper wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:19 pm
It was not his intention to play foul, he just made a mistake. Intentional foul play is usually punished (and rightfully so) harder. a DSQ perhaps? If you start flooring on very false starts it might be considered a danger.
I looked into this when it last flared up with the question "If you floored it the instant the lights started going red, could you build enough of an advantage to offset the punishment"?

The regs give some flexibility but allow a punishment of up to a 10-second stop/go penalty so, best case scenario, you'd need to get 30+ seconds down the road between the lights starting going red and them going out. If your car is fast enough to do that, I don't think you'd need to jump the start :lol:

With the flexibility, it's best to try and minimise the offence as much as possible to get as small a punishment as possible.

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Wynters wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:38 pm
Sieper wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:19 pm
It was not his intention to play foul, he just made a mistake. Intentional foul play is usually punished (and rightfully so) harder. a DSQ perhaps? If you start flooring on very false starts it might be considered a danger.
I looked into this when it last flared up with the question "If you floored it the instant the lights started going red, could you build enough of an advantage to offset the punishment"?

The regs give some flexibility but allow a punishment of up to a 10-second stop/go penalty so, best case scenario, you'd need to get 30+ seconds down the road between the lights starting going red and them going out. If your car is fast enough to do that, I don't think you'd need to jump the start :lol:

With the flexibility, it's best to try and minimise the offence as much as possible to get as small a punishment as possible.
Probably from the back of the grid this would be viable. But I think they would be punished greater surely? teams would protest.
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Wynters wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:38 pm
Sieper wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:19 pm
It was not his intention to play foul, he just made a mistake. Intentional foul play is usually punished (and rightfully so) harder. a DSQ perhaps? If you start flooring on very false starts it might be considered a danger.
I looked into this when it last flared up with the question "If you floored it the instant the lights started going red, could you build enough of an advantage to offset the punishment"?

The regs give some flexibility but allow a punishment of up to a 10-second stop/go penalty so, best case scenario, you'd need to get 30+ seconds down the road between the lights starting going red and them going out. If your car is fast enough to do that, I don't think you'd need to jump the start :lol:

With the flexibility, it's best to try and minimise the offence as much as possible to get as small a punishment as possible.
Would you still get the penalty for going through a red light, yellow flags, passing under grid order etc tacked on?
Plus the start would probably be aborted and you forced to start from the back anyway :D
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Omg, this would be gold. I would love to see this being attempted and the stewards inability to punish accordingly.

“Err, the sensor didnt register a jump start”

“There is no rule that allows us to punish this offence for more than a 10 sec stop/go.”

:lol:
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Wynters wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:38 pm
Sieper wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:19 pm
It was not his intention to play foul, he just made a mistake. Intentional foul play is usually punished (and rightfully so) harder. a DSQ perhaps? If you start flooring on very false starts it might be considered a danger.
I looked into this when it last flared up with the question "If you floored it the instant the lights started going red, could you build enough of an advantage to offset the punishment"?

The regs give some flexibility but allow a punishment of up to a 10-second stop/go penalty so, best case scenario, you'd need to get 30+ seconds down the road between the lights starting going red and them going out. If your car is fast enough to do that, I don't think you'd need to jump the start :lol:

With the flexibility, it's best to try and minimise the offence as much as possible to get as small a punishment as possible.
I think something like that actually happened in DTM some 20 years ago.