2021 Portuguese Grand Prix - Portimão, Apr 30 - May 02

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Re: 2021 Portuguese Grand Prix - Portimão, Apr 30 - May 02

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Sieper wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 9:28 pm
And that is why Lewis tires lasted one lap longer as Bottas’ tires last year at Silverstone. How enlighted.
Thats 1 race in 17, and wasn't that not tyre wear that caused that. It was a structural failure.
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I just think it all a bit preposterous.

And it is always the guy where we are fan off that is good, and the other, who is bad (hasn’t learned it yet). 5 years ago in he very first race in this car he already made the tires last. But that is also just one race.
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drunkf1fan wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 5:24 am

I mean FP1/2 are one thing, but the tracks don't change much year to year. Bottas is in his 5th season. How is he not sitting down and rewatching entire races with his engineer with all of Hamilton's data and seeing where Ham is pushing harder and he isn't and where he's pushing harder and Ham isn't. Studying the lines, studying the throttle application, studying everything down to the last detail and going oh ---, that's the difference.

Okay Ham might be less forthcoming with setup info leading up to qualifying letting him not quite be on the same setup or know exactly what he's doing but with years of data and knowledge to learn from a gradual improvement over time should be out right expected. To me Bottas seems the same driver in 2017 as he seems today, still with massive issues getting his tires to last and issues with race craft.
The thing is that Bottas is probably pretty awesome at doing just that. Copying what he sees and adapting. But F1 isn't nearly as static as you think. The braking point is changing lap-by-lap as fuel levels come down and tyre grip is changing. Not just that, but brake temperatures, wind and so many more factors are changing and this is what sorts out the good from the greats in this sport. By having that "feel" for grip and understanding how to make the most of the whole package, not just on a weekend or race basis but in a corner-by-corner basis.

ALL drivers' copy others, even today Hamilton was instructed how to gain more time through T5, or to copy what Bottas did. But that isn't enough to be great in F1. Bottas struggles with keeping the pace up without hurting his tyres and next year (Pirelli says) all that could be turned on it's head. But then again, Hamilton is a great driver and hence I expect him to figure it out as well.

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All the good drivers arw god with tyres.
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