2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 04 - 06

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zibby43
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LM10 wrote:
31 May 2021, 17:43
zibby43 wrote:
31 May 2021, 09:36
LM10 wrote:
31 May 2021, 08:46


Is Rob Smedley one of the reliable sources? Few days ago Toto told that they are flat out focusing on 2022 and will only bring small updates here and there throughout the season. The major performance improvement will come from understanding car and tires, as per him.

But then again, Toto is the mind game expert himself, so who knows.
He was Felipe Massa's race engineer at Ferrari and the Head of Vehicle Performance at Williams (Merc customer) from 2014-2018, and now works as the Director of Data Systems for FOM.

Brilliant engineer and very plugged into the paddock. So I'd consider him very reliable.
Oh of course, alright, thank you!
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politburo wrote:
31 May 2021, 20:59
Slow corners plus 2 long straights will lend very well for Aston Martin, and McLaren. I will not be surprised if both are ahead of Ferrari and maybe McLaren can even push RedBull.

If the practice sessions are even half as intriguing as the Monaco ones it will be exciting, but Baku seldom disappoints.
McLaren’s strengths are the high speed corners. They’re not faster than Ferrari on slow speed. Not even to mention Aston Martin.

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The track has a lot of slow speed corners but they aren't very technical slow speed corners.

It's very much a low drag, acceleration, breaking focused track.
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dans79 wrote:
31 May 2021, 21:47
The track has a lot of slow speed corners but they aren't very technical slow speed corners.

It's very much a low drag, acceleration, breaking focused track.
Ferrari thinks this will be a pretty difficult weekend for them and they're expecting a very strong performance from McLaren for those reasons.

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From a driving point of view this track is in fact deceptively technical, there is a technique that must be used to extract the lap time.

The most important aspect of the track in terms of lap time are the obvious straights, in the race a good lap time can be had with approximately 312-322kph down the main straight, which means a medium downforce configuration.

The less obvious aspect of lap time is in the braking phase, not particularly the initial braking phase. While a tenth or two can be gained with late braking, this is more than negated by the amount you gain on corner exit. Therefore it is the brake release point that is the most important on this track. The brake release point and the car's entry angle to the corner will contribute more to lap time than any other late braking heroics in every single place except the castle turn.

Every corner will be taken quickest if the proper entry angle and brake release are used, as the car will be able to straight line the corner as much as possible. Because there are such long straights after every corner, all the time is gained on getting the perfect exit that will let you be fastest in the sections between corners and straights.

The brake release and steering inputs happen before and after you have passed the apex.

To make things even more interesting every corner has a slight kink on approach making the driver focus on the entry angle just that little bit more.
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Should I invest in crypto or bet on a Bottas victory this weekend? The odds for Bottas are quite good and this is one of his strongest tracks (his other strong track is Sochi).

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I wouldn’t bet on Bottas to do anything but lose.
Watching F1 since 1986.

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
31 May 2021, 22:02
Should I invest in crypto or bet on a Bottas victory this weekend? The odds for Bottas are quite good and this is one of his strongest tracks (his other strong track is Sochi).
You should DCA your crypto like Mercedes DCA's Bottas annually

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Intrigued to see how the lap times play out on Saturday.

Was it this circuit where Renault really attacked with two different set ups last year where Ocon was mega in sector 1 and Ric mega in sector 3?

I think McLaren in a straight line could be nippy but whether they can master the offset in that tricky section is another ball game.

Red Bull have a good test too here - Honda PU certainly improved but can they topple Merc?

Would imagine Ferrari might lose a little too much on the straights here to be a major threat?

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Maybe I’m mixing up with Monza!!

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AMuS say that Mercedes will be very competitive here, but Toto Wolff continues the underdog story that Red Bull will be stronger than them because it is a street track. Im not sure about the Red Bull saga because in Spain or Portugal, I cant remember exactly Max with DRS could not match Hamilton top speed. Yes, Lewis was on a low-downforce RW but Max have both slipstream and DRS. Mercedes will gain a lot of time on the straight if we judge by Swhat we saw in Spain. The problem are those slow corners where Max will be king. In the middle I think it will be a very weak track for Ferrari.

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How is the tyre life here again?

Graining is a thing here?
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Mansell89 wrote:
01 Jun 2021, 23:55

Was it this circuit where Renault really attacked with two different set ups last year where Ocon was mega in sector 1 and Ric mega in sector 3?
Unlikely, since the race wasn't run last year.

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Herr_Koos wrote:
02 Jun 2021, 14:48
Mansell89 wrote:
01 Jun 2021, 23:55

Was it this circuit where Renault really attacked with two different set ups last year where Ocon was mega in sector 1 and Ric mega in sector 3?
Unlikely, since the race wasn't run last year.
Yep, definitely mixing up with Monza.

What really won the lap time last time we were here- was it all horsepower and low drag or was there more to the tricky section that meets the eye?

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The Power of Dreams!

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