2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 - 18

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Wouter wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:14 pm
The fact that Parc Fermé will already start after FP1 will mean inconvenience for most teams.
Especially when it rains / red flags.

The Sprint Qualifier replaces the normaly exciting Q1, Q2 and Q3 qualification.

You can no longer earn the Pole Position Award as the fastest driver in Q3. Now this will be for the winner in the Sprint Qualifier.

What do you think about all this?
Beautiful weather this weekend.

Tires are really hard. No one will want to use the hard it's very slow. Soft and medium are the way to go. Hard tire is going to have massive front graining. Maybe it's fine in Silverstone a little understeer isn't too bad, particularly on corner exit.

Tire wear seems to be around 11 laps for the softs to start falling off. 15 for the medium and 17 for the hard. That means the Sprint race can be completed on any tire, but the pace of the car will be different at a different point of the race, depending on the tire.

Sprint race is around 18 laps?
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politburo wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:20 am
dans79 wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:59 am
RZS10 wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:04 am
They ran 25psi front and 21psi rear in the 2020 British GP and upped that to 27psi front and 22psi rear for the 70th Anniversary race ... so it's compared to the first race last year.
So the rears are still 1 psi higher than at either race last year....

That seems utterly ridiculous, since they cut downforce over the winter, and beefed up the rears part way through this season. At the rate they keep upping pressures they will be at roadcar levels before long.

I wish F1 would kick Pirelli to the curb......
The downforce was cut but it's not they went from 2020 levels of downforce to IndyCar levels. The cornering speeds are still high, and thus lateral acceleration is still high. We saw some of the highest corner speeds in the Austrian GP at turn 9.

Higher starting pressure means higher operating pressures as well. Higher operating pressure reduces the degree to which the tire edges may strain laterally when cornering, the lower the pressure the more flexible the tire edges are. Silverstone has 4 or 5 high downforce corners, and these teams are greedy, though they will never admit pressure gouging their tires, they didn't even admit any potential rule-bending with whole flexible rear wing nonsense when it was obvious.

Pirelli has dug themselves a hole where the tires literally last 70% of the percent of the race. The pace drop-off in the 2nd stint is almost negligible. At some point they must pull that back.

The entire point of 10% DF reduction was so that the 2019/2020 pirellies could be used for 2021. It's obvious someone screwed up that calculation.

The new tire rules where to ensure that the teams couldn't game the pressures. Thus the FIA/Pirelli had a decent assurance that the tires would reach the expected operating temperatures and pressures.

The updated tires that debut this weekend where to add an extra degree of robustness to prevent failures.

So there are 3 changes in place to prevent tire failures, and they still jacked up the pressures.


Honestly, I would pay to have Pirelli kicked to the curb,their tires are garbage imo!
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While the top three finishers will receive 3-2-1 points for the sprint race, the result will not count towards their formal podium tallies, nor will there be any podium ceremony.

But F1 has added a “sprint victory lap” to its schedule, taking place in a 30 minute window after the race
from 5pm to 5:30pm local time.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/clas ... p/6630110/


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Wouter wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:58 pm
While the top three finishers will receive 3-2-1 points for the sprint race, the result will not count towards their formal podium tallies
lol, what does that even mean?
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dans79 wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:38 pm
Wouter wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:58 pm
While the top three finishers will receive 3-2-1 points for the sprint race, the result will not count towards their formal podium tallies
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lol, what does that even mean?
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Normally it is said that a driver has achieved 9 times a No. 1 podium , or 4 times a No. 2 podium .
Since they don't have a podium ceremony, but a lap of honor around the circuit, they can't add their
number 1, 2 or 3 place to this list.

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https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/89055/fo ... ation.html

For the fastest driver in qualifying on Friday, Formula 1 has created something new; the Pirelli Speed King Award.
Yes, you read it correctly. This Speed King gets to start at the front in the sprint race and of course,
has the best chance to take pole position.

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Wouter wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:58 pm
While the top three finishers will receive 3-2-1 points for the sprint race, the result will not count towards their formal podium tallies, nor will there be any podium ceremony.

But F1 has added a “sprint victory lap” to its schedule, taking place in a 30 minute window after the race
from 5pm to 5:30pm local time.
This just spells cringe..... :wtf:

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They should have a running start for the sprint race like old le Mans. The drivers will have to run through the fans without getting mugged before making it to the cars.
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cplchanb wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:38 pm
Wouter wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:58 pm
While the top three finishers will receive 3-2-1 points for the sprint race, the result will not count towards their formal podium tallies, nor will there be any podium ceremony.

But F1 has added a “sprint victory lap” to its schedule, taking place in a 30 minute window after the race
from 5pm to 5:30pm local time.
This just spells cringe..... :wtf:
That and the 'speed king award' sound like things directly to appeal to a new American audience used to catchy labels and phrases like 'fast nine' etc. (Sorry if any fellow F1T American fans are not impressed with that comment. I have tried not to make it in a condescending way!)

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El Scorchio wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:27 pm
cplchanb wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:38 pm
Wouter wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:58 pm


This just spells cringe..... :wtf:
That and the 'speed king award' sound like things directly to appeal to a new American audience
I give it 2 weeks before they get in trouble for using the word King to convey prestige (American twitter will complain about the Sexist and Colonialist association of the word)

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Clearly 'Drag Queen' would be more appropriate, and satisfy the woke.

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dren wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:47 pm
They should have a running start for the sprint race like old le Mans. The drivers will have to run through the fans without getting mugged before making it to the cars.
:lol: Lando is screwed! :lol: 8)
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El Scorchio wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:27 pm
cplchanb wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:38 pm
Wouter wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:58 pm


This just spells cringe..... :wtf:
That and the 'speed king award' sound like things directly to appeal to a new American audience used to catchy labels and phrases like 'fast nine' etc. (Sorry if any fellow F1T American fans are not impressed with that comment. I have tried not to make it in a condescending way!)
Tried?... "American audience used to catchy labels and phrases". There probably aren't that many American viewers in the US that will be watching it live anyway on a Friday morning. Many of them are only watching recaps or recordings. And Liberty doesn't seem to be that involved in this sprint race concept, are they? I don't see this as something intended to spice up the show for Americans.

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ispano6 wrote:
El Scorchio wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:27 pm
cplchanb wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:38 pm
This just spells cringe..... :wtf:
That and the 'speed king award' sound like things directly to appeal to a new American audience used to catchy labels and phrases like 'fast nine' etc. (Sorry if any fellow F1T American fans are not impressed with that comment. I have tried not to make it in a condescending way!)
Tried?... "American audience used to catchy labels and phrases". There probably aren't that many American viewers in the US that will be watching it live anyway on a Friday morning. Many of them are only watching recaps or recordings. And Liberty doesn't seem to be that involved in this sprint race concept, are they? I don't see this as something intended to spice up the show for Americans.
A lot us (Americans) do the effort to watch at least Qualy and the Race live… I know I do :)


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Just_a_fan wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:21 pm
dren wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:47 pm
They should have a running start for the sprint race like old le Mans. The drivers will have to run through the fans without getting mugged before making it to the cars.
:lol: Lando is screwed! :lol: 8)
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