No, just the team. Maybe on ThursdayRob W wrote:
They should give the lollipop guy a drive-through then.
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Yeah, he did. Cause apparently he got the blue flag, once, way before that. It was shown on the screen that Hamilton got blue flagged more than two minutes ago.Rob W wrote:Some of you are on such a weird anti-McLaren tip I have to wonder aloud why Hamilton didn't try to back Massa up towards Alonso when he was about to be lapped again. He just pulled over ages before Massa was even close.
No, not really. Just trying to avoid punishment for this very strange and early blue flag.McLaren showed very sporting behaviour in this instance which I very much doubt you'd see from a red car nearly as often.
I suppose we'd need an exact rule for cases like this then. We wouldn't want penalties for one and none for the other for similar thing, would we? There has already been enough of these debatable penalties over the years.Tom wrote:It doesn't really bear thinking about but it has to be thought of because at the end of the day it was a wrong descision and the best way to avoid it happening again is to penalise the guy who made it so it is more carefully considered in the future.
Perhaps Ham's engine was still running unlike others.hatchet man wrote:http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ ... 4756.shtml
Perhaps I am put off by the Hamilton Hysteria but Hamilton's car was not the only one that was undamaged in the 1st corner parking lot. Others should have been given the chance to restart as well.
it was answered already
What makes me made is how he was perfectly happy to put the marshalls lives at risk. If the car coming down the straight had lost it like many others he could quite easily have hit that marshall, and I'm not sure but his car doesn't look to high either and if it was low enough could of decapitated the driver or something. All I can say is Hamilton and McLaren were lucky something like that didn't happenhatchet man wrote:
http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ ... 4756.shtml
I'm not sure how things were run, but I can only assume that Hamilton was in no position to command the marshalls.Spyker MF1 wrote:What makes me made is how he was perfectly happy to put the marshalls lives at risk.
It seemed like he was expecting a "lift" back onto the track by not turning off his engine when he knew he was stuck. Possibly other drivers who don't recieve so much preferential treatment would have turned it off immediately.pRo wrote:I'm not sure how things were run, but I can only assume that Hamilton was in no position to command the marshalls.Spyker MF1 wrote:What makes me made is how he was perfectly happy to put the marshalls lives at risk.
Would be interesting to hear his radio conversation over that time. I'm guessing the team told him to keep it running.mx_tifosi wrote:It seemed like he was expecting a "lift" back onto the track by not turning off his engine when he knew he was stuck. Possibly other drivers who don't recieve so much preferential treatment would have turned it off immediately.pRo wrote:I'm not sure how things were run, but I can only assume that Hamilton was in no position to command the marshalls.Spyker MF1 wrote:What makes me made is how he was perfectly happy to put the marshalls lives at risk.
But who knows what Hamilton was thinking really, I sure don't.
When did I say he was commanding the marshalls? By sitting in the car and getting the marshalls to put him on track it was making their job a lot more dangerous. As normally they would be far back from track next to the tyre barriers.pRo wrote:I'm not sure how things were run, but I can only assume that Hamilton was in no position to command the marshalls.Spyker MF1 wrote:What makes me made is how he was perfectly happy to put the marshalls lives at risk.
Or do you know better?
So you agree that the marshalls did what they thought was best?Spyker MF1 wrote:When did I say he was commanding the marshalls? By sitting in the car and getting the marshalls to put him on track it was making their job a lot more dangerous. As normally they would be far back from track next to the tyre barriers.pRo wrote:I'm not sure how things were run, but I can only assume that Hamilton was in no position to command the marshalls.Spyker MF1 wrote:What makes me made is how he was perfectly happy to put the marshalls lives at risk.
Or do you know better?
pRo wrote:They had no obligation to put his car back on track.
If a car stops during the race (except under Article 142c) and d), it must be removed from the track as quickly as possible so that its presence does not constitute a danger or hinder other competitors. If the driver is unable to drive the car from a dangerous position, it shall be the duty of the marshals to assist him. If any such assistance results in the engine starting and the driver rejoining the race, the car will be excluded from the results of the race
Like I said, they had no obligation to put his car back on track.modbaraban wrote:pRo wrote:They had no obligation to put his car back on track.If a car stops during the race (except under Article 142c) and d), it must be removed from the track as quickly as possible so that its presence does not constitute a danger or hinder other competitors. If the driver is unable to drive the car from a dangerous position, it shall be the duty of the marshals to assist him. If any such assistance results in the engine starting and the driver rejoining the race, the car will be excluded from the results of the race
) but this situation, being weird and all, is still within the rules even if contradicting the spirit of the rules. No point to argue unless you are so blinded with hate for Ham (or love for his opponents) that much and see him always wrong no matter what etc bla bla bla.