Sebastian Vettel has won the first race for Red Bull Racing on the soaked Shangai circuit. Team mate Mark Webber completes the joy by making it an excellent 1-2 for the team. Behind them is the unavoidably Brawn of Button. The latter was simply outpaced by today's well balanced RB5's.
Vettel has got quite a fun character. Like Richard Hammond who name the old car Oliver, I thought this is so cute!djos wrote:yeah he is awesome, when Webbo retires in a few years time Vettel will be my #1 favorite Driver.jddh1 wrote: Well, in that department, us at Ferrari have an upper hand if that is to be implemented. LOL
Anyway, loved this comment from Vettel:My original car was called ‘Kate’. But then it got smashed at the opening race in Australia. So we called this one ‘Kate's Dirty Sister’ because it is more aggressive and faster.
This guy is quickly becoming my favorite character in F1 in a long time.
I guess it is how you judge a driver is good or great. If you look at the numbers, You'll see that Hamilton has a perfect records so far. Schumacher pretty much broke all records during his era. Then these two can be called the best.ISLAMATRON wrote:At the top there really isnt all that much between the best of them. Senna was great(the best ever IMO) but Prost bettered him on some days. Schumacher was outstanding but there were 9 times when even Rubans was better. Did we ever see MS tested by a great one in the same equipment a la Senna vs Prost? Unfortunately destiny robbed us of that opportunity.
We saw how close it was between Hamilton & Alonso... it could have been between who had a better --- that morning. As good as Vettle is he really hasnt even outshown his teammate that much this year. Lets sit back and enjoy the show.
Completely incorrect. Alonso had a lot less fuel than Button, based on when they made their first pit stops as well as the post-qualifying weights.And after that he spun. If everything had been perfect he would have finished fifth, after the two Red Bulls and the two Brawns. But our car is much better. I want to see our car with normal weather. The car is much more competitive. Fernando was second on Saturday and we saw we had the same level of fuel as Button.
Did Briatore even watch the same race and look at the same data as everyone else? Is he partially blind? He makes absolutely no mention of Toyota. Glock in the Toyota was far faster than Alonso in the race, and Glock's pace was at about the same level as Brawn and very close to the Red Bulls. Alonso had 9th fastest lap in the race."And today, our performance... Behind the two Red Bulls and the two Brawns, it was us. We were quicker than McLaren, than Ferrari and BMW. I'm not jumping ahead because it's not the moment, but the car is better and it's only a question of going to Bahrain and hope the weather is not like in the last two races."
Hmm yeah i saw that too. I thought it was a typo, but i guess i was wrong.vasia wrote:Briatore has completely gone off his rocker:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74656
Completely incorrect. Alonso had a lot less fuel than Button, based on when they made their first pit stops as well as the post-qualifying weights.And after that he spun. If everything had been perfect he would have finished fifth, after the two Red Bulls and the two Brawns. But our car is much better. I want to see our car with normal weather. The car is much more competitive. Fernando was second on Saturday and we saw we had the same level of fuel as Button.
Did Briatore even watch the same race and look at the same data as everyone else? Is he partially blind? He makes absolutely no mention of Toyota. Glock in the Toyota was far faster than Alonso in the race, and Glock's pace was at about the same level as Brawn and very close to the Red Bulls. Alonso had 9th fastest lap in the race."And today, our performance... Behind the two Red Bulls and the two Brawns, it was us. We were quicker than McLaren, than Ferrari and BMW. I'm not jumping ahead because it's not the moment, but the car is better and it's only a question of going to Bahrain and hope the weather is not like in the last two races."
Sorry, but I detect a little wishful thinking here. It is common knowledge that 10 kg of fuel costs at least 0.3, more likely 0.4 seconds a lap, just compare Q2 and Q3 times (Hamilton for example was 2.8 seconds slower in Q3 than Q2 with around 70 kg more fuel = 0.4 seconds per 10 kg of fuel). Also, Trulli had 27.5 kg more fuel than Alonso, not just 20 kg.tweet wrote:and bare in mind that 10kg more fuel add about 0,2s on fast circuits. So you´ll see that if you add about 20kg and so about 0,4sec to alonso´s time, that that time was right behind the Brawns and in front of the best Toyota
With that additional 20kg alonso would have started from 5th place and with a common fuel load.
i´m not trying to say that renault is the thing to beat, i just want to show that they catched up and maybee are already equal or faster than toyota/williams
refering to LH, and so his opinion is ~0,35s (for china)He started the race from 13th place on the grid with a one stop fuel load. His car had around 80 kilos of fuel in it, some 46 kilos more than Vettel, which equates to around 1.6 second per lap extra.
I'm sorry, but Glock changed his setup when he started from the pitlane. His setup was far more rain-optimized than the dry qualifiers out there.vasia wrote:Did Briatore even watch the same race and look at the same data as everyone else? Is he partially blind? He makes absolutely no mention of Toyota. Glock in the Toyota was far faster than Alonso in the race, and Glock's pace was at about the same level as Brawn and very close to the Red Bulls. Alonso had 9th fastest lap in the race.
No, you wouldn't, as you would also have fresh tires.xpensive wrote:0.04 s a lap per kg seems rather on the high side to me.
It would mean that after a 75 kg fuel-stop, you be 3 seconds off the pace?
