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Your thesis would also need to look at double DRS systems. The Red Bull one is likely to be the championship deciding development this year. Newey had a look at Mercedes pioneering DDRS system and decided to apply it to the beam wing instead of the front wing. The reason for that decision is said to be the extremely tight packaging of the RB8 which will not allow air pipes for the DDRS air to be chaneled forward to the front wing. But Red Bull did an excellent job with the beam wing DDRS which was introduced from the Singapore race. Since that race Vettel has demolished Alonso's points lead and eventually turned it into a 10 point lead of his own. Ferrari have been unable to copy the system.
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I think if I need to please everybody on the forum that I should review the whole car. The only thing is that I don't have all the time and knowledge in the world. For this project I am only gonna focus on the simple DRS but I will also mension the DDRS because this is the newest technology involving the DRS.

I noticed that I triggered a whole lot of reactions on the DRS. Wasn't this a very curious thing 2 years ago?
Can I also get some reaction from the fans point of view how you guys think the introduction influenced the sport?

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The introduction of DRS was not appreciated by the purists. It devalues the overtaking of the old style. On the other hand it has ended a period of processional racing and increased the entertainment value of the sport. Pole position still has great advantages and it is still fought fiercely. I think that DRS is needed as long as the cars have massive downforce and drag. It is improbable that F1 will change to ground effect aerodynamics with lower drag any time soon. This means that DRS is meant to stay. From a general point of view I would prefer to have all movable aerodynamic devices legalised as long as they are safe to use. It would make more sense to increase the mechanical grip and use less power sapping downforce.
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Search for DRS articles on f1fanatic.co.uk

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There is lots of thread covering DRS and related systems on the forum so I apologize if I will post some things again. As Darew mention it you can have a look at Moog E024 Series Servo Valve Datasheets 1 & 2to get info about the range of pressure supply. In general pressures in F1 hydraulic systems are up to 220bar with pumps that have 16L/minute flow rate. The response time of servo valves is 2.8 milliseconds. Here is some additional info about Servohydraulics for Formula 1 by Martin Jones from Moog co. Moog also supplies miniature brushless electric motors that can be used for front wing actuation.

There was a short explanation of system in RCE and also basic CFD study by McBeath.
DRS: The Drag Reduction System explained wrote:
Moveable aerodynamic components are nothing new, every time you sit on an airliner you see the wing flaps, ailerons moving around, and often as you come into land you can see the array of hydraulics employed to move them. The systems on a Formula 1 car work in essentially the same way. Hydraulic tubes, rods and actuators. But whilst on an Airbus A320 or even a modern UAV or fighter jet there is a huge amount of space to work in, on a grand prix car the opposite is true.

None the less grand Prix drivers have a new tool at their disposal, the so called Drag Reduction System, DRS. It is essentially an adjustable rear wing which can be used to facilitate overtaking.
Under the rules for 2011, the driver of a following car can adjust the flap of his rear wing under certain circumstances. When two or more cars pass over timing loops in the surface of the track, if a following car is measured at less than one second behind a leading car it will be sent a signal that will allow its driver to deploy the car’s active rear wing. The flap is lifted up at the front and pivots about a point at the trailing edge of the wing, so that in the event of a failure, the flap will drop down into the default, high-downforce position. Since the timing loops will be sited after corners, drivers will only be able to deploy the active rear wing as a car goes down a particular nominated straight, in Melbourne for example this was the starting straight.

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Simon McBeath conducted a basic CFD study of the Drag Reduction System in action. Here we compare the Drag Reduction System in open position (left) and closed (right). The results of the study appear on the graph below.

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‘As a car comes out of a corner and crosses the timing line within the prescribed interval, at the moment the following driver feels he is no longer traction limited, he will press the button and drag on his rear wing will be reduced,’ explains Tony Purnell an FIA advisor involved in the creation of the regulation. ‘He will sprint down the straight and, by the end of it, will have a 4-5kph advantage over the car he is trying to pass. When we looked at the problem in 2007, we saw that as a Formula 1 car comes out of a corner it has tremendously good acceleration – they wouldn’t be F1 cars without it – so when the leading driver gets on the throttle those fractions of a second earlier, even if the following car is a lot faster the leading car pulls a big gap. That means immediately coming out of a corner, any advantage from drag reduction is not really there.

Purnell is convinced that the active rear wing even raises the prospect of overtaking at tight circuits like Hungaroring and Monaco. ‘If, initially, it has no effect at, say, the Hungaroring, the FIA has the mechanism to change things. Maybe the flap movement could be extended from four degrees to 10 degrees for tracks like Monaco and Hungary – then you might well get overtaking. That’s why I think this “lever” that the FIA has is so important because it will be able to tune the way races unfold.”

How it works:

DRS is unlike last years front wing adjustment in that it does not give a number of position settings, its either on or off. Last year it was found that teams were using the front wing flaps more to work with the dual tyre compounds and falling car weight through the race rather than it’s intended purpose – overtaking.

From the steering wheel a signal is sent to the ECU, the same McLaren Electronics unit used in all Formula 1 cars since 2008. That unit will likely drive a Moog valve mounted somewhere in the region of the transmission.

“we have developed custom versions of our E024 series servo valve for rear wing actuation” reveals Martin Jones the Market Manager for European Motorsport at Moog. The E024 was popular for front wing actuation, although those systems will be made redundant under next years regulations. Moog also supplies a range of miniature brushless electric motors that may also be used for this purpose. Suggesting that not all teams have gone the hydraulic route.

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Exactly how teams have approached the problem of actuating the wing itself is difficult to be sure of though some run tubing up through the central wing supports or through the end plates, though neither have an especially large cross sectional area to run pipework or rods. Looking at some of the front wing end plate devices used in F1 recently hydraulic lines are run to a small actuator, whilst on others an electronic actuator is used. Negating the need for a hydraulic system.

Exact costs are hard to come by but the time taken to construct a cars pipework at a specialist such as FHS Motor Racing is a good indication “it is almost how long is a piece of string trying to work out how long it would take, if we take a simplistic approach & just say how long to assemble a set of hoses then we are talking “ very” approximately 35/40 hours” explains Peter Hughes the firms MD.

“F1 teams will typically design the assembly themselves then send the files over to us to see it it is actually possible to make. We take the design files and convert them into something that’s workable. Many of the teams have worked with us for years though and know what is possible. Things like bend radius or whether something is suitable for Swaging or similar. Then as a system is being developed we go on site with the client and do mock ups to ensure it all fits.”

The materials used in these systems also require great precision and a healthy budget as Hughes explains “today in F1 it is mainly titanium tube, though some of what we do involves PEEK mainly in the fuel system but primarily titanium. Aluminium and stainless steel are also used. Titanium is favoured for its inherent lightness and strength, it means you can, make the cross section of the material so much thinner than if you were using Almuminium. To my knowledge nobody has come up with anything better that is reasonably priced. The problem with making these parts from Titanium is that when you are bending it you only get one go – you bend it – allowing a margin for spring back and then its done. Its work hardened by then. That’s the skill, knowing the correct angle and spring back – even from batch to batch it varies in hardness, so we have to test every batch. Over time we have learned to manipulate titanium tubing in ways, especially in small spaces, that other people cannot do, and the fruits of that will be on cars in the future. It a good area for us.”

Despite the ongoing pressure on top flight motor racing to cut costs, new regulations, such as the switch from adjustable front wing to adjustable rear inevitably increase expenditure, and although the actuation systems are similar in operation little if anything can be carried over. “There is very little carry over, there are move to try and change that, so they can use last years on this years but that goes completely against the grain of the way engineers think, better lighter, car dimension changes make huge differences to use. A simple example is the car fuel filler cap – that’s one of our systems” continues Hughes.
This is the video of Sauber C30 DRS flap operation from pre-season test.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYnUZHjl2Xs[/youtube]

There are also some photos of linear hydraulic actuators placed in the central pillars. Like this one on Ferrari F150.
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As an alternative you can also look at Shiftec pneumatically operated DRS mechanism that Dallara is using for 2012 FR 3.5 chassis. DRS actuation mechanism that operates the movable flap is packaged inside the rear wing. Basic info of the FR3.5 car
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The post above is really helpfull. I really appriciate it.

I already tried to contact scrabsf1. I noticed his articles were very thorough.

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TDH wrote:I already tried to contact scrabsf1.
His forum name is scarbsF1. His name is Craig Scarborough. He is a blogger and a free lance F1 journalist.
https://twitter.com/ScarbsF1
http://scarbsf1.com/
are his twitter and his home page in case you havn't found it already.
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I just got an e-mail from scrabsf1 and he was very helpfull.

Are here a lot of guys who work in Formula one active on the forum?

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It is prohibited by the employment contract if you work for a team. So if one works for a team he will usually not advertise it.
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Scotty86 posted this on this forum but I wanted to put it in this subject because it involves my project.
Formula 1 is to ban, on safety grounds, the free use of the DRS overtaking aid in practice and qualifying from 2013.

Drivers have complained there have been incidents when some have lost control because they are testing the limits of when they can use the DRS.

The device reduces rear downforce to boost straight-line speed.

The sport's governing body, the FIA, will also introduce more stringent tests to stop front wings moving for aerodynamic benefit.

This practice has been under the spotlight in recent years as teams seek to design front wings that change their characteristics in certain parts of the tracks to either improve cornering or straight-line performance.

New tests for this year have stopped wings flexing down at either end to aid cornering performance.

But a new practice has emerged whereby wings rotate on their horizontal axis - reducing their effectiveness on the straights and therefore increasing top speed.

Currently, flexible wings are policed by a single load applied downwards in one place on each side of the wing. From next year, the load will be applied in two places - one further back from the current test point and one further forwards.

As far as the DRS is concerned, next year its use will be restricted to the specific zones on the track aimed at increasing overtaking.

The DRS - or drag-reduction system - operates by lifting the upper part of the rear wing, reducing drag and boosting straight-line speed.

In the race it is only allowed in specified zones on either one or two straights.

But use has been free during practice and qualifying since its introduction in 2011, the reasoning being that if teams could gain a lap-time benefit for qualifying they would make the device as effective as possible which would have the benefit of making overtaking easier.

But Charlie Whiting, the race director of governing body the FIA, said he was now confident this would still be the case and that the safety aspects were too important to ignore.

"We are going to prohibit the use of DRS in practice and qualifying except in the areas where it's going to be used in the race," Whiting said.

"We're doing that for safety reasons. We believe there have been a number of incidents and drivers have told me it is becoming increasingly prevalent.

"We didn't want to have it in practice and qualifying before but we were worried we would not have effective DRS systems. Now all the information we have is that we will not see any reduction in the power of the DRS."

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I did some researche on the airfoil and I found 3 types of NACA profiles that where used in a different thesis.

NACA 2308
NACA 2312
NACA 2104

Which do you think is the best option for my project? Or are there some other suggestions?

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From those I would guess the NACA 2312 because it has highest thickness.
But to find the best profile your CFD will be useful.

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As a hint, you should start generating your own profiles to give them much more camber. F1 rear wings are operated in very critical condition close to stalling. These airplane wings are usually operated with very low angles of attack. A highly cambered wing will give you better performance. Look at the video of the Sauber wing above. Its profile is quite extreme.
You can generate your own wing profile with a smart sketch in your CAD software. A circular section as leading edge, some splines.

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Does anybody know how the DRS activation works? I mean the ground facilities. Does it all work with radio-controled pulses which enable the button in the car or how does it work?

In the sporting regulations I found a section that says "Electromagnetic radiation between 2.0 and 2.7 GHz is forbidden ..."
Is this partly because of DRS or just for communication?

And how are the time differences registered?

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Does the FIA provide the ground installations or is it the organiser of the race?