Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

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Rustem 1988
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Re: Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

Post by Rustem 1988 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:45 pm

DaveW wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 am
Rustem 1988 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:18 am
I want to know how camber force affects on understeer and torque balance.
I think you have good advice, Rustem. If you don't like it, question your model.
If you require answers for a real race vehicle, you may need to add "installation" stiffness (Sprung mass is seldom a monolith).
Is it "installation" values for camber and cornering stiffness? For example, if lateral force Y=Ca*a+Cɣ*ɣ, then Ca=-10000 and Cɣ=100 or other values.

Rustem 1988
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Re: Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

Post by Rustem 1988 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:56 pm

Camber force=Cɣ*ɣ but I think that camber force force must depend on the speed of the car.

In the steady state of corner M*v*r=Ca*a+Cɣ*ɣ. I want to know forces and moment of car for different speeds.

Rustem 1988
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Re: Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

Post by Rustem 1988 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:58 pm

Why, when the different stiffness of the springs, tires and shock absorbers, the trajectory of the car can be different?

Rustem 1988
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Re: Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

Post by Rustem 1988 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:21 pm

This is probably due to the fact that when the load changes the cornering stiffness of the tires and the slip angle changed, too.

Rustem 1988
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Re: Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

Post by Rustem 1988 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:50 pm

If you were asked to evaluate the efficiency of the setting what data would you be interested in first?

Rustem 1988
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Re: Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

Post by Rustem 1988 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:26 pm

Which simulator is the most convenient for studying the settings of the car?

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Re: Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

Post by Greg Locock » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:47 pm

Have you read this? http://phors.locost7.info/contents.htm

Learning about vehicle dynamics from a racing game merely means that you are debugging whatever errors the game designer has made, deliberately (for speed or excitement) or accidentally.

Rustem 1988
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Re: Best setup chassis guide for real race and racing games

Post by Rustem 1988 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:35 pm

Greg Locock wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:47 pm
Have you read this? http://phors.locost7.info/contents.htm
Yes.