Red Bull Racing 2012

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by dren » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:02 pm

The only thing that trophy case is missing is a finger.
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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by Nando » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:20 pm

Newey has been at it again... can we not just ban him? Like put a lid on how many titles you can have in a certain period :)

I´m really looking forward to seeing what he can come up with for next year. Especially the exhaust... will it stay, maybe a new innovation?
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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by Just_a_fan » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:00 pm

Raptor22 wrote:I've always been concerned with his views on safety
If you asked the drivers whether they wanted a car that was 5% safer or 5% quicker then they'd go for quicker every time. Any driver that didn't wouldn't be worth employing.
IMO, the closed canopy is still the way to go to improve safety as well as racing. I also reserve the right to be wrong
The law of unintended consequences applies. Add a canopy and watch a driver die because they can't get him out in time because of a damaged canopy system.

The art of engineering is to consider systems that deal with the most issues for the least effort. Politicians deal with knee-jerk reactions; engineers don't. Canopies are a knee jerk reaction to a minimial problem. Newey knows that.
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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by raymondu999 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:23 am

dren wrote:The only thing that trophy case is missing is a finger.
Perhaps in time the German GP winning trophy will be in the shape of a massive index finger, in homage to Germany's second-ever WDC? :lol:
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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by RB7ate9 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:27 pm

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/10/360-red-bull-f1/

360 panorama video of Buemi in RB Show car. Don't know which track, though.

Edit: Duplicate post from "360 Red Bull F1 Video" thread. Can be removed.

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by Forza » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:14 pm

Redragon wrote:In BBC they did a really nice documental of Newey driving two of his designs
90.s and 2010 if i am right. correct me if I am wrong.
I will try to find on youtube so you can all see it.
It was really interesting to see the joy of his face driving his own machines

At the moment here is the bbc link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20198256
Here is the YT version

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akrPl59q ... =g-all-lik[/youtube]

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by Kiril Varbanov » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:05 pm

As promised, here’s the short info about Red Bull’s simulator.

The Main man behind the simulator is Andy Damerum.
The cockpit is from the original Red Bull RB1 of 2005, yet it is programmed with the aerodynamics and engine specification of the current car.

Pedals and driving position are exactly the same, steering wheel works in full, all buttons, and is exact copy of the one that gets used on race weekend.

This cockpit is on top of a platform, which is mounted over six hydraulic “legs” - they are somewhat high, so the driver is almost 2 meters above the ground. Roll, pitch and yaw are there, as you can imagine - people with motion sickness better stay out :)

Since peripheral vision is weak with us, humans, compared to animals, we need more time and resources to identify the surrounding objects, thus, the simulator wants to try to emulate the environment closely and stimulate the brain’ Occipital lobe, which is mainly responsible for processing vision. Hence, there’s a single 180 degree vision screen to match the moving pictures of the track and objects that you leave behind.

Short note about senses stimulation: a while ago Williams F1 team had a technical partner, Qinetiq, who has done a research on how the nerve endings are sending info to the Cerebellum (smaller region in the lower part of the brain) about perceptions of yaw, pitch and roll. The research claims that if stimulated at early age, these perceptions are being developed much faster than at later age. Sorry for the medical distraction, I strongly believe, however, that physics and human body, most notably including the brain, are one of the most important aspects of the beloved sport.

Back on the simulator, any type of setting and parameters that can be altered during the race, such as angle of attack, toe-out, suspension, etc, can be changed in the simulator, too.
Something which is usually not changed is the grip levels, as they will produce different feeling for the driver, hence the grip is usually a constant parameter.
The engine sound is, well, fake, but certainly the sounds match the sound frequency of the gears. Feedback through the steering wheel is definitely there.

New tracks are added first via raw data, then video footage to polish the sharp edges, then input and potentially real data from car tested over there.

Andy Damerum or other team personnel is monitoring the live data: the same parameters are available there, as on the track, even named the same for full match: pDiff, nEngine, NGear, rThrottlePedal, MDiffDemand, etc.

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by Phillyred » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:24 pm

Excellent info! Thanks for sharing!! =D>

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by stefan_ » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:41 pm

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INFINITI TO BECOME TITLE PARTNER OF RED BULL RACING From 2013

Red Bull Racing is pleased to confirm today that it has agreed a four-year extension of its partnership with Infiniti, the premium automotive brand from Japan, which first began in March 2011.

The increased agreement will see Infiniti become title partner from 2013, meaning Red Bull Racing’s team name will become Infiniti Red Bull Racing from the start of next season.

As part of the expanded partnership, Infiniti’s involvement with the team will evolve from being purely commercial to a relationship that is more technologically focused, as the two companies will join together on a number of engineering and development projects.

Johan de Nysschen, President of Infiniti said: “While our first 24-months have been very beneficial to both parties, our new increased relationship will bring increased advantages to Infiniti and Red Bull Racing. As title sponsor, Infiniti Red Bull Racing will help us garner even more worldwide exposure for our brand, products and technology.”

Red Bull Racing’s Team Principal Christian Horner added: “Red Bull Racing and Infiniti have been working on a number of initiatives since the start of our relationship in 2011. During that time, Infiniti has demonstrated significant technical prowess and I’ve been impressed by the depth of the wider engineering capabilities of the Nissan Motor Company. In terms of marketing, Infiniti has leveraged their involvement with Red Bull Racing and Formula One extremely effectively to become much better known in a short space of time. These two attributes make Infiniti the ideal title and technical partner for Red Bull Racing.”

Adrian Newey, Red Bull Racing’s Chief Technical Officer commented: “Formula One presents immense design and engineering challenges on a daily basis. Having a committed technical partner like Infiniti gives us a great platform for working together on technical projects, such as the Energy Recovery Systems for the 2014 season.”

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by ScottB » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:57 pm

Interesting, especially after Joe Saward's piece suggesting that Renault were becoming frustrated at their lack of exposure compared to Infiniti.

Also, does that suggest that Red Bull will be going totally their own way with the ERS as they've done with KERS rather than using a Renault solution? Hopefully for their sake Infiniti will be able to churn out more reliable units than their in house efforts so far...

Does it not eventually make sense to rebadge the Renault engine and be done with it?

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by stefan_ » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:03 pm

They have also a technical partnership with Infiniti that extends to 2016 so something can happen there. Infiniti is Nissan's luxury brand and Nissan is partially owned by Renault (they have soemthing like 43% of Nissan, while Nissan has 15% of Renault shares).
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by beelsebob » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:15 pm

Joie de vivre wrote:"Mateschitz would welcome Alonso or Hamilton to Red Bull if Vettel were to leave for Ferrari"

http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/07018
http://totalf1.com/details/view/437182/ ... LIcXIatZt1
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alons ... ateschitz/
Wow, to me, that says 2014 is going to look like this:
Ferrari:
Alonso + Vettel
McLaren:
Button + Perez
RBR:
Hamilton + ???

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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by Nando » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:25 pm

Newey and Hamilton....
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gfROz_0qZtI/T ... %2Bwin.jpg

Problem is Hamilton has a contract to 2015 with Mercedes. But i guess that´s just a formality in F1.
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Re: Red Bull Racing 2012

Post by siskue2005 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:30 pm

Nando wrote:Newey and Hamilton....
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gfROz_0qZtI/T ... %2Bwin.jpg

Problem is Hamilton has a contract to 2015 with Mercedes. But i guess that´s just a formality in F1.
i am sure there is some performance clause for lewis at Merc, which if not met he can bail out early
infact all the top drivers have these, eg: Kimi Lotus