2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

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Revs84
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Interview with Tost - worth reading.

https://thejudge13.com/2018/06/21/toro- ... new-level/

muramasa
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I never open that particular site, but is it possibly this speedweek article?

http://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/1 ... iveau.html

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Revs84 wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 19:04
Interview with Tost - worth reading.

https://thejudge13.com/2018/06/21/toro- ... new-level/
seemed so old to me that they probably came out of a dumpster! :D :D
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Revs84 wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 19:04
Interview with Tost - worth reading.

https://thejudge13.com/2018/06/21/toro- ... new-level/
"Sometimes they seemed so old to me that they probably came out of a dumpster! Thank God that’s not the case with Honda. We’re on a whole new level of cooperation."

About Renault parts last year... :shock:

On the other hand, it seems that Austria will be other interesting point with new aero upgrades and I hope better engine mapping...

So, no upgrades at all here in France?? :roll:

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muramasa wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 19:13
I never open that particular site, but is it possibly this speedweek article?

http://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/1 ... iveau.html
Yes correct. I couldn't find the original interview so thanks for sharing.

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techman wrote:
20 Jun 2018, 22:54
personaly honda should get crank it and see where the engine is at. nothing to worry now. redbull honda deal is done. use the remaining races to get the most out of the engine and prepare for 2019
Really? What good would that do! The way these systems work is you learn more about them the more the travel. It`s all well and good doing that if the same engine is never to be used in F1 again [like they did with the glowing renault] but right now Honda/Toro Rosso/Red Bull want as much data as possible so they can get to the finer details of the engine mapping.
They have to work out where the best traits are and when to use them, is the traction good in 4th out of a slight corner, to much in 2nd out of a hairpin, etc, etc...
Lack of milage has hurt Honda, something which can`t be said of Mercedes or Ferrari!

I`m hoping for a solid [maybe points] showing from TR, hopefully incident free.

Lets at least hope for some proper racing :)

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Revs84 wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 19:04
Interview with Tost - worth reading.

https://thejudge13.com/2018/06/21/toro- ... new-level/
Honda is also working on a more powerful battery. And, most importantly, the different aggregates need to be better reconciled.

The regulations state that we have to start from the back. But we like to take the risk, because we see this season as a transitional season for 2019.
these are remarkable parts of interview for me.

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so the honda upgrade worth .5 in race trim
UPGRADES
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Toro Rosso's fron suspension and Redbull rear suspensin looks interesting.

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HPD wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 23:45
http://i63.tinypic.com/vr3tvr.png
So good to see such a great comparison. You can see how much tighter the RBR rear end is, but also, where the bulk of the PU is (cylinder head, exhaust manifolds), the STR is noticeably narrower.

We could potentially see some outrageous aero designs from both STR and RBR with the Honda PU from next year. With STR excited for a properly integrated/designed chassis for the Honda and RBR also getting those insights + a lot more time than STR got last year.
If STR can narrow up that rear end like the RB14, which is what the split turbo layout should assist in, and RBR narrow that waistline like the STR13... I am so keen to see what they both come up with!

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GhostF1 wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 09:33
HPD wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 23:45
http://i63.tinypic.com/vr3tvr.png
So good to see such a great comparison. You can see how much tighter the RBR rear end is, but also, where the bulk of the PU is (cylinder head, exhaust manifolds), the STR is noticeably narrower.
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I certainly don't agree with this. This shows only a different design choice. While STR chose to basically have a linear decrease in width of their cooling exit, RBR chose a smaller width over its entire length. This doesn't tell you anything about how much space there really is at the car's ends.
Maybe RBR uses a higher cross section than STR.

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Yes, it's overall car design choice and internal packaging. Red Bull is the only team that's packaged in such a fashion. The TR car is similar to Mercedes with their aero design of the sidepods.
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rscsr wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 10:05
GhostF1 wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 09:33
HPD wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 23:45
http://i63.tinypic.com/vr3tvr.png
So good to see such a great comparison. You can see how much tighter the RBR rear end is, but also, where the bulk of the PU is (cylinder head, exhaust manifolds), the STR is noticeably narrower.
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I certainly don't agree with this. This shows only a different design choice. While STR chose to basically have a linear decrease in width of their cooling exit, RBR chose a smaller width over its entire length. This doesn't tell you anything about how much space there really is at the car's ends.
Maybe RBR uses a higher cross section than STR.
True true. I'm just going with the fact the STR we know, as it's been said it isn't their "ideal" design with the PU integration being conservative at best this season, and they claim they've got great ideas for 2019. Yes it could be a philosophy thing here, but I'd be surprised if for next year's STR they widen the sidepods, if anything you'd think they'd narrow out the cooling exit at the rear. Obviously it's just a vague assumption. But who really knows. Just thoughts on a good comparison photo.

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Hartley's engine given up the ghost. Anyone knows the reason?
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