2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

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Zynerji
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Zynerji » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:45 pm

#FireBoullier

Then McL should buy FI, swap their engine contracts, and do the listed parts deal after combing both teams chassis data, and moving the FI design team to McL to bolster their talent pool.

I know it's am extreme thought, but McL seems to be suffering more from developing solo, in a vacuum than anything else. The teams that have "arrangements" with other teams seem to be the ones ahead.
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dren
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by dren » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:57 pm

Mclaren doesn't need to infect that great team with its toxicity.
Honda!

Zynerji
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Zynerji » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:58 pm

dren wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:57 pm
Mclaren doesn't need to infect that great team with its toxicity.
I'm saying to remove the toxicity. Bob Fernley to McLaren might do wonders for their workforce all on it's own.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Singabule » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:17 pm

Zynerji wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:45 pm
#FireBoullier

Then McL should buy FI, swap their engine contracts, and do the listed parts deal after combing both teams chassis data, and moving the FI design team to McL to bolster their talent pool.

I know it's am extreme thought, but McL seems to be suffering more from developing solo, in a vacuum than anything else. The teams that have "arrangements" with other teams seem to be the ones ahead.
Nope, with its toxicity even if they would purchase sauber for Ferrari PU, sauber would close the security gate to mitigate the spread of illness

radosav
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by radosav » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:05 pm

What to espect from car that hasnt had any major upgrade if we don't count new nose?

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by BrunoH » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:10 pm

unfortunatly my fear of not even making Q2 came true.

im lost for words....

radosav
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by radosav » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:25 pm

So Albert Fabrega says wind tunel - track corelation issue source of McLaren trouble.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Zynerji » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:33 pm

radosav wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:25 pm
So Albert Fabrega says wind tunel - track corelation issue source of McLaren trouble.
More like a mismatch in correlation between track performance and EB's ever running mouth... #-o

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by PinkFloydPulse » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:34 pm

That makes no sense, every single time they brought a new upgrade they said the numbers from the tunnel and on track are ok... Really strange...
Team Fernando!

Zynerji
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Zynerji » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:52 pm

PinkFloydPulse wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:34 pm
That makes no sense, every single time they brought a new upgrade they said the numbers from the tunnel and on track are ok... Really strange...
Just excuses at this point.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Fulcrum » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:14 pm

PinkFloydPulse wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:20 pm
Oh my...Can it get worse than this? #-o
Of course it can. Have your heard of Williams?

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by McMika98 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:29 pm

So it turns out it was correlation issue and not really chassis related but then they decided to throw the chassis guy under the bus.

Fulcrum
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Fulcrum » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:34 pm

Seems like their correlation problems extend into the domain of scapegoats too then.

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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by RonDennis » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:56 pm

You remember the time when you guys told me I was dead wrong? They went backwards instead of forwards.

RonDennis wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 2:27 am
PhillipM wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 2:23 am
Their pace hasn't been terrible though, it's been pretty damned good for an interim car with a rushed engine swap, race pace is top of the midfield.
I haven't heard anyone at the factories even mutter anything about correlation issues.

The nose was delayed because it failed crash tests, so they had to go through iterations + respective lead times. Which is why they only bolted an interim part of the new turning vanes on whilst they waited for it.
We're talking about a team that had the "best chassis" in 2017 and has a race winning engine now, while they haven't entered Q3 once and are fighting with teams like Haas, Force India and Toro Rosso.

When did it fail the crash test?

In fact, this new update should have arrived at the third race of the year, in China, but it has been delayed because it had to be revised, since the track data did not correspond to what the wind tunnel predicted.
http://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/gp- ... b45e8.html
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Re: 2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by ALO_Power » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:58 pm

Schuttelberg wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:45 pm
Never been a McLaren fan ever, but as someone who admires and respects them this is getting painful to watch. All that Honda bashing for 3 years and all that 'we have the best chassis' talk. I'm sorry but McLaren deserves to be spoken about in a higher degree even in tumultuous times and the current set up have made it a joke it should never have come close to being.
Yes mate, we all see that but it's just annoying when people do what u do, coming in this topic when they never post (and being fans and active of another team) after a disaster to enjoy themselves.

Anyway, as for the massive performance drop, is it possible those internal guys that humiliated McLaren in the media and told that they wanna go on strike, started to actually do this and "sabotage" the team to wake em up? I wouldn't be surprised. It's just super weird to drop soooooooo much after the 1st 7 races. Qualifying never was there for sure but still. Also, reliability problems out of the blue started to knock the door while McLaren was the team with zero retirements at the start of the season. Weird, weird. I'm not backing em up in any way, just considered what those employees told.