2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by kaepernickus » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:43 pm

iotar__ wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:06 pm
At the glance, no Renault on the car to be seen? Renault giving the engines to McL was their first step in divorcing "we have many options" BS RB.
Red Bull's Renault engines were already branded TAG Heuer in 2017. Nothing new.

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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by Nicktendo86 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:46 pm

Gerhardsa wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:38 pm
So let me rephrase that.

You've been told by a McLaren Aero guy ( a guy who would have only seen the RB14 today as well, and didn't have anything to do with the design of the RB14 ....obviously, and therefor can in no way whatsoever have any data on the aero of the RB14) that the RB interpretation of the Ferrari designed sidepod intakes, are less draggy?

Unless Stepney and Coughlan somehow found themselves at these teams and didn't learn their lessons from Spygate, I have my doubts
Maybe McLaren have a similar concept and the aero guy recognised it? I dunno.

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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by jagunx51 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:00 pm

ollandos wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:48 pm
i like the middle of the car ...and i guess i am the only one who dont like this livery ..sorry but i have see dozen and better fantasy livery concepts for red-bull.....
Some green paint is hiding there .... a clue for the racing livery ?

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by bosyber » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:02 pm

No, that's just part of the camo - shades of blue/gray - inclusive that greenish grey. Those different shades, and the irregular but blocky shape of them help make it more difficult to see where the real shades, body panels and edges are, and exactly how the lines of the bodywork run.

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by jagunx51 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:13 pm

bosyber wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:02 pm
No, that's just part of the camo - shades of blue/gray - inclusive that greenish grey. Those different shades, and the irregular but blocky shape of them help make it more difficult to see where the real shades, body panels and edges are, and exactly how the lines of the bodywork run.
I dont see them in the studiophoto, it is blue behind the Puma logo & on the barge board..... only on the "ASTON MARTIN" part is green, I dont think it is because of sunlight

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by Manoah2u » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:16 pm

jagunx51 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:13 pm
bosyber wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:02 pm
No, that's just part of the camo - shades of blue/gray - inclusive that greenish grey. Those different shades, and the irregular but blocky shape of them help make it more difficult to see where the real shades, body panels and edges are, and exactly how the lines of the bodywork run.
I dont see them in the studiophoto, it is blue behind the Puma logo & on the barge board..... only on the "ASTON MARTIN" part is green, I dont think it is because of sunlight

https://i.imgur.com/yzDGk1b.jpg
could it be as simple that the 'test' livery on the right side has some green but the left side simply doesn't?

left from the aston martin 'word' on the studio shot there's a greenish teint, as well as right above the 'o' of aston martin and the sidepod which says redbull on top of that.

looks to me like it is light tricks and that the right side of the car doesn't have the exact mirroring livery like the left side, probably to futher obscure shapes. it's clear that the right side is differently 'camo-ed' than the left, as the blocks on the barge boards on the RHD side of the car have a black block in it, and the LHD side has a 'narrow stripe'.

so it's just the livery itself and the light on it.i'm sure when we get [if] to see the other side of the studio shots you'll see much greener appearances there. i don't expect to see that though - i'm confident RB is trying to obscure the shapes as much as they can.

and it's indeed funny that they photoshopped the studio shots. surely to mess with the competition too.
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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by Holm86 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:22 pm

Manoah2u wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:16 pm
jagunx51 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:13 pm
bosyber wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:02 pm
No, that's just part of the camo - shades of blue/gray - inclusive that greenish grey. Those different shades, and the irregular but blocky shape of them help make it more difficult to see where the real shades, body panels and edges are, and exactly how the lines of the bodywork run.
I dont see them in the studiophoto, it is blue behind the Puma logo & on the barge board..... only on the "ASTON MARTIN" part is green, I dont think it is because of sunlight

https://i.imgur.com/yzDGk1b.jpg
could it be as simple that the 'test' livery on the right side has some green but the left side simply doesn't?

left from the aston martin 'word' on the studio shot there's a greenish teint, as well as right above the 'o' of aston martin and the sidepod which says redbull on top of that.

looks to me like it is light tricks and that the right side of the car doesn't have the exact mirroring livery like the left side, probably to futher obscure shapes.
Yes, look right under the Citrix logo, same sort of greenish shade

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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by Manoah2u » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:25 pm

Holm86 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:22 pm
Manoah2u wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:16 pm
jagunx51 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:13 pm


I dont see them in the studiophoto, it is blue behind the Puma logo & on the barge board..... only on the "ASTON MARTIN" part is green, I dont think it is because of sunlight

https://i.imgur.com/yzDGk1b.jpg
could it be as simple that the 'test' livery on the right side has some green but the left side simply doesn't?

left from the aston martin 'word' on the studio shot there's a greenish teint, as well as right above the 'o' of aston martin and the sidepod which says redbull on top of that.

looks to me like it is light tricks and that the right side of the car doesn't have the exact mirroring livery like the left side, probably to futher obscure shapes.
Yes, look right under the Citrix logo, same sort of greenish shade
and that same goes for the barbe board / end plate where the side impact structure is mounted to which has the puma logo in white on top. there's a blue square, then a green one below it [studio shot]. the RHD side is upside down in that colour scheme.
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Re: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer RB14

Post by CBeck113 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:27 pm

You can see it in the pictures from gandharva, for instance between the "d" and "B" on the side pod, but looking more blueish grey than green:

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I'd say good camo!
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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by 1158 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:31 pm

Look at the larger side image from the shakedown and you'll see the same color under and above the B in Red Bull and farther back on the engine cover. Might even be some on the RWEP. I say it's just an artifact of the camo

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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by Gerhardsa » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:33 pm

The green is defo present in the launch pics as well. The lighting and angles throw it off a bit indoors it seems

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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by Jolle » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:36 pm

Looking at the newly wrapped trucks, the team kit (on their twitter feed), looks like the livery for this year is going to be basically the same as last years.

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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by gandharva » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:40 pm

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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by jagunx51 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:27 pm

Astonmartin looks super on that camo

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Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by Zynerji » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:39 pm

Gerhardsa wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:38 pm
So let me rephrase that.

You've been told by a McLaren Aero guy ( a guy who would have only seen the RB14 today as well, and didn't have anything to do with the design of the RB14 ....obviously, and therefor can in no way whatsoever have any data on the aero of the RB14) that the RB interpretation of the Ferrari designed sidepod intakes, are less draggy?

Unless Stepney and Coughlan somehow found themselves at these teams and didn't learn their lessons from Spygate, I have my doubts
unless this mclaren aero guy is in the reverse engineering department, and he understands how these differing solutions work.