And how many times has Max sabotaged his own race compared to Dan? Dan doesn't make stupid moves that put his opponent and himself in danger of crashing, Max does which is another reason Dan is cleaning up on points and race wins.GPR-A wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:49 pmYou should also be thankful to Renault for their incredible reliability, which has allowed Ric to be ahead on points. Ponder upon this. Since last year, almost every time Max has had a mechanical DNF, he was ahead of Ric and almost every time Ric had a mechanical DNF, he was behind Max! Check those facts out. So you are a wise man, should be able to calculate who lost more.adrianjordan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:22 pmYou have a different definition of beating than I do. To me scoring more points and victories than the other guy is beating. Sunday is where points are awarded and so Sunday is when the results matter.GPR-A wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:17 amThe guy is getting beaten by a kid and found to be nowhere when it is wet and he is going to challenge Hamilton? There is a limit to have emotions and follow a driver, but to this level?
Despite Red Bull's stance that, they wanted to keep him, he is leaving the team. What boat was Ric rocking in RB. Clearly, Horner is right. Ric's own boat is rocking.
Exactly, Max makes his own bad luck by driving recklessly, Monaco, Baku and China are all great examples of him throwing away good results.
What about at the Melbourne opener? Pushing so hard and desperately to get by Magnussen, he wore out his tires and spun trying to overtake that Haas.djos wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:17 pmExactly, Max makes his own bad luck by driving recklessly, Monaco, Baku and China are all great examples of him throwing away good results.
Baku ??? that was a race incident ( in my opinion more Daniel fault )djos wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:17 pmExactly, Max makes his own bad luck by driving recklessly, Monaco, Baku and China are all great examples of him throwing away good results.
In Ross Brawn's opinion, Ricciardo was a mere passenger in the incident due to the wake off Max's car due to his multiple direction changes trying to defend. It had been warned over the last two seasons that Max would cause a crash with his defending, thankfully, nobody was hurt. Also thankfully, it was his own team mate he took out.Starscreamer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:16 pmBaku ??? that was a race incident ( in my opinion more Daniel fault )djos wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:17 pm
Yes this year Max is more involved by crashes then all years before.
But 2017 he was always in a better position then Daniel for retirement with mechanical issues.
Both drivers are great but I think Max is faster. He needs only a little bit more experince
All very well, but I think you're missing the direction of my argument. I'm comparing Vettel and Ricciardo's results and the seats it gave them access to.