2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Lotus102 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:06 pm

Manoah2u wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:48 pm
Lotus102 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:21 am
Impressive that Williams can continue to bring new sponsors on board under the circumstances

https://twitter.com/williamsracing/stat ... 40672?s=21
you have got to be kidding me right

https://i.imgur.com/tXAqojg.png

#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

they attracted THIS SPONSOR?

rite. every respect, value, seriousness and professionalism is absolutely out the window and gone.
what a complete disgrace.
F1 sponsors in history have included pornographers, fraudsters and Rich Energy. I think the dignity of the sport will survive a game developer with a slightly twee aesthetic 😂

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Scorpaguy » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:48 pm

...so Rokit announces it will be sponsoring the Venturi FE team. Could this be the beginning of their F1 exit?

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Lynx » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:30 pm

They've increased their involvement in the team in the form of ROKiT Drinks for 2020, so I don't see that in one month time they would change their mind...

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Scorpaguy » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:45 pm

Lynx wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:30 pm
They've increased their involvement in the team in the form of ROKiT Drinks for 2020, so I don't see that in one month time they would change their mind...
...true, but “Rich Energy” leaves me gunshy.

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Big Tea » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:58 pm

Scorpaguy wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:45 pm
Lynx wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:30 pm
They've increased their involvement in the team in the form of ROKiT Drinks for 2020, so I don't see that in one month time they would change their mind...
...true, but “Rich Energy” leaves me gunshy.
Red Bull is a drinks company too. Erm so is Johnny Walker and the Champagne brands, and Kingfisher several more :D

I know what you mean though
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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Lotus102 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:57 pm

Scorpaguy wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:45 pm
Lynx wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:30 pm
They've increased their involvement in the team in the form of ROKiT Drinks for 2020, so I don't see that in one month time they would change their mind...
...true, but “Rich Energy” leaves me gunshy.
ROKiT isn't going anywhere. Back in June they extended their sponsorship of Williams through to 2023 and added the ROKiT drinks deal in October, so they're in for the long haul. The Venturi thing seems separate.

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Mr Brooksy » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:20 am

The only thing I'm really interested in with this story is how much daddy is paying for the seat.
WilliamsF1 fan since 1989

Scorpaguy
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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Scorpaguy » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:14 pm

Mr Brooksy wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:20 am
The only thing I'm really interested in with this story is how much daddy is paying for the seat.
A lot!

The other thing I am interested in is if Williams suffers from such a young line-up. I agree that Kub was not the answer (for a number of reasons debated elsewhere), but this team seems in desperate need of so many things related to experience and general F1 race team wisdom. CW talks about Lat "ticking all the boxes"....other than cash I do not see his "box ticking" qualities.

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Lotus102 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:40 pm

Scorpaguy wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:14 pm
Mr Brooksy wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:20 am
The only thing I'm really interested in with this story is how much daddy is paying for the seat.
A lot!

The other thing I am interested in is if Williams suffers from such a young line-up. I agree that Kub was not the answer (for a number of reasons debated elsewhere), but this team seems in desperate need of so many things related to experience and general F1 race team wisdom. CW talks about Lat "ticking all the boxes"....other than cash I do not see his "box ticking" qualities.
He evidently has a fair turn of speed, enough to win several races in a pretty competitive season. Regarding the 'young lineup', I believe Latifi actually has rather more experience of recent F1 cars (and teams) than Kubica did, as he'd been test/reserve driver with Renault and Force India, and that all has to help. F2 graduates seem to do well in F1 at the moment, with a very few obvious exceptions, and I dare say a lot of that is down to experience with the Pirellis - which Kubica just did not have. So yes, not the most experienced lineup but not completely lacking in relevant experience. Latifi seems to have gelled well with the team during his FP1s/tests, and by all accounts impressed them with his feedback, while being very team-focussed and loyal about it. So all in all I'd say he's about the perfect partner to Russell.

This was interesting in the F1.com analysis: "It would be remiss not to mention that Latifi also comes with financial backing. It is believed this was not a requirement to land the seat, the team aided by an increased investment by title sponsor Rokit ahead of next year that helps offset the loss of Orlen, who depart with Kubica. However, in the fight to haul themselves back into the midfield, the added cash will be a welcome boost."

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... xJyb0.html

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Tattoo- » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:28 pm

I find it interesting, that they have signed him for only one season...or it maybe means something? :wtf:
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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Lotus102 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:42 pm

Tattoo- wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:28 pm
I find it interesting, that they have signed him for only one season...or it maybe means something? :wtf:
Most contracts outside of the top teams only seem to be for one season these days. Even if they are supposedly multi year, as with Sirotkin and Kubica, that tends to mean one year with options for further years if conditions on both sides are met.

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by izzy » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:49 pm

I'm not expecting too much from Nicholas Latifi personally, experience matters so much in F2 after all, 3+ years to be 2nd isn't that promising. But Williams are still going, is the main thing. I still think they need to sell really, but perhaps it only needs their own Andreas Seidl and James Key to turn things around

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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Capharol » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:38 pm

izzy wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:49 pm
I'm not expecting too much from Nicholas Latifi personally, experience matters so much in F2 after all, 3+ years to be 2nd isn't that promising. But Williams are still going, is the main thing. I still think they need to sell really, but perhaps it only needs their own Andreas Seidl and James Key to turn things around
last years F2 contenders field was ....... bad and Latifi wasn't that good.

so i guess its all about money in this case
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Re: 2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by izzy » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:15 pm

Capharol wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:38 pm
last years F2 contenders field was ....... bad and Latifi wasn't that good.

so i guess its all about money in this case
Yes Lance2 really. Hopefully the car and organisation will be better