2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by f1rules » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:02 am

Nice to see but tr and mcl also with the least df i think

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by restless » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:15 am

change of Kvyat's ICE due to "anomaly" :/

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by etusch » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:25 am

restless wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:15 am
change of Kvyat's ICE due to "anomaly" :/
Hope it is a small thing.
Toro Rosso looks strong here by now

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Marti_EF3 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:11 am

Maybe don't want to risk the PU, and bettee changing entire unit to be ready for the weekend. So they've enough time to analize the old unit

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Stef » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:53 am

That's what Tanabe said

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Wouter » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:45 pm

Jonathan Eddolls (Chief Race Engineer):

“Overall, it’s been a fairly busy day. In FP1, each driver had two prime tyres and the focus was to take what we learned at the Bahrain test and put that into practice, so we ran some setup work on the same tyre type across multiple runs. We also spent time tuning mechanical setup items and aero platform work which gave us some interesting results. The track started very slippery which meant extremely high track improvement. Tyre graining is always a potential issue at this circuit, particularly on the front left, so we did a long run at the end of FP1 to assess how the tyres would hold up. Even with the track temperatures on the colder side, the tyres performed better than expected. On the last lap of Dany’s run in FP1, Honda noticed an anomaly on the PU side, so we elected to cut his run slightly short and decided to change the PU as a precaution. The mechanics did a very good job to get the car turned around and running again halfway through FP2, although, this meant we had to compress Dany’s programme. Traffic becomes a problem when you do a low fuel run while the rest of the field is on a race simulation during FP2, however, the team did a good job to find a reasonable window so Dany could get a couple of clean laps in. He was able to improve and put in a competitive time, which we were happy with as it was only his second lap of the session. Alex completed a more conventional FP2, having two short runs on the base followed by option tyres before moving onto the long run. We made some setup changes from FP1 to FP2 based on the data from the first session and it was good to see those changes pay off given how tight the midfield is.”
Kvyat longrun on the Hard compound with the new engine. =D>

8 1:38.249
9 1:38.539
10 1:38.653
NO TIME
11 1:39.977
12 1:38.820
13 1:42.407
14 1:39.213
15 1:39.165
16 1:38.870
17 1:39.261
18 1:39.345

Bottas longrun on the Hard compound.

24 1:58.385
25 1:38.667
26 1:38.599
27 1:39.144
28 1:38.842
29 1:38.651
30 1:39.057
31 1:38.985
32 1:39.093
33 1:39.468
34 1:39.662
35 1:38.970
36 1:39.121

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by search » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:12 pm

looks like both cars were underfueled, I'm afraid. That pace is way to quick (Kvyat was by far quickest of all, and also Albon's times were comparable to Mercedes) to be believable in any way

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Marti_EF3 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:36 pm

If they are able to fight on the top 10, it will be a great result. It's so tight, but if they can manage to do a lap without mistakes and traffic, maybe one STR could be on Q3, the Honda PU seems to work great here

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by McMika98 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:10 pm

Car looks solid straight out from the pit. Albon who is new to the track is already knocking on the times of Renault and Mclaren who tend to use higher modes. Race pace looks decent in terms of wear and consistency. Hopefully they qualify up the order so they dont get stuck behind and lose out.

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Snorked » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:23 pm

The car was definitely light on fuel unless China is this season's Bahrain were everything just clicks with the car. Albon was quicker than Vettel on the soft tyre and only just behind him on the hard tyre if I'm understanding the AMUS long run analysis correctly.

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by etusch » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:31 pm

Marti_EF3 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:36 pm
If they are able to fight on the top 10, it will be a great result. It's so tight, but if they can manage to do a lap without mistakes and traffic, maybe one STR could be on Q3, the Honda PU seems to work great here
I wacthed 3 videos shared race topic. Ferrari reaches with 300 km/h speed to the first white board on the side of tarmac, McLaren 292 and Redbull with 282

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by Marti_EF3 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:27 pm

etusch wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:31 pm
Marti_EF3 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:36 pm
If they are able to fight on the top 10, it will be a great result. It's so tight, but if they can manage to do a lap without mistakes and traffic, maybe one STR could be on Q3, the Honda PU seems to work great here
I wacthed 3 videos shared race topic. Ferrari reaches with 300 km/h speed to the first white board on the side of tarmac, McLaren 292 and Redbull with 282
But what of this data is due to traction, aero, and PU? RBR don't have all the issues solved for sure

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by etusch » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:27 pm

Marti_EF3 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:27 pm
etusch wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:31 pm

I wacthed 3 videos shared race topic. Ferrari reaches with 300 km/h speed to the first white board on the side of tarmac, McLaren 292 and Redbull with 282
But what of this data is due to traction, aero, and PU? RBR don't have all the issues solved for sure
Ferrari's lap time better than Redbull but mclaren was slower than Redbull. So it may be because of aero settings. It is obvious that both Redbull and Honda still have jobs to do. This race is an evident for us that they will better and better race by race.
Verstappen: Red Bull must bring better upgrades
It's been a solid start to life with Honda engines - Bahrain mishap aside - for Red Bull, but they are still seemingly F1's third-quickest team. With that in mind, Max Verstappen has called for big improvements.

"We learned a lot in Bahrain and we also learned we made a mistake with the setup," Max told Sky F1. "If you look back in Australia we didn't have any major issues, we just need to make sure we are reliable and score points.

"It's a long season and I think there are a lot of updates coming between the big teams - we just need to make sure that we bring the better ones."

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Re: 2019 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

Post by etusch » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:53 pm

Alexander Albon: "Today was a pretty good day for us. I spent the first session exploring and getting an idea of the circuit - it's a technical track and there's a lot of different lines you can take but I got to grips quite quickly with it. The more time I get in the car, the more I'm comfortable learning a new track so I feel a bit more confident with the car straight away. Between the two sessions, I put to practice what I learned from FP1 to FP2, but there's still a few things I want to try in FP3. I was happy with how the day went, it looks like our long run pace is quite competitive, although there's definitely a bit of time left in the car."

Daniil Kvyat: "FP1 was very productive, we completed all of the laps we had planned and we were happy with our competitiveness. In FP2, we lost quite a bit of time due to the precautionary PU change, so we were put on the back foot once I was able to get going. Everyone was on their high fuel runs so I spent most of my time in traffic. Despite all of this, we are pretty happy where we are, we just need to keep digging for tomorrow."