2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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Honda close to matching Mercedes on power – Verstappen

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 3upV0b5E20

Why Red Bull could hit the ground running in 2020
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... anTBT.html

Even at the season’s penultimate race, there were still new parts appearing on some of the cars. The most obvious of these were all-new front wings from both Red Bull and Alfa Romeo.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 92nWz.html

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Honda has matched and exceeded Mercedes in power terms we saw a bloody torro rosso blasting that Mercedes up the hill in Brazil. It doesn't make sense to put the focus on Honda while Redbull failed to produce a sound chassis.Honda development progression have been linearly upwards since 2017 so the really question marks is on the Redbull side.

Before the season started Rbr asked for power unit that is within 0.3 of Mercedes and they got more than the bargained for.i think Max and some fans could learn a thing or two from Marko and call a spade a spade.Max is usually outspoken but I think he is really protective of Redbull since is his employer but if he want to win that championship he should push them hard and not just gloss over things.

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Bill wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:32 am
Honda has matched and exceeded Mercedes in power terms we saw a bloody torro rosso blasting that Mercedes up the hill in Brazil. It doesn't make sense to put the focus on Honda while Redbull failed to produce a sound chassis.Honda development progression have been linearly upwards since 2017 so the really question marks is on the Redbull side.

Before the season started Rbr asked for power unit that is within 0.3 of Mercedes and they got more than the bargained for.i think Max and some fans could learn a thing or two from Marko and call a spade a spade.Max is usually outspoken but I think he is really protective of Redbull since is his employer but if he want to win that championship he should push them hard and not just gloss over things.
Well, the team is fully aware of where they lack. There are a few quotes from CH acknowledging they had problems with the chassis and FW and it took them too long to sort that out.

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lio007 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:38 am
Bill wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:32 am
Honda has matched and exceeded Mercedes in power terms we saw a bloody torro rosso blasting that Mercedes up the hill in Brazil. It doesn't make sense to put the focus on Honda while Redbull failed to produce a sound chassis.Honda development progression have been linearly upwards since 2017 so the really question marks is on the Redbull side.

Before the season started Rbr asked for power unit that is within 0.3 of Mercedes and they got more than the bargained for.i think Max and some fans could learn a thing or two from Marko and call a spade a spade.Max is usually outspoken but I think he is really protective of Redbull since is his employer but if he want to win that championship he should push them hard and not just gloss over things.
Well, the team is fully aware of where they lack. There are a few quotes from CH acknowledging they had problems with the chassis and FW and it took them too long to sort that out.
and if one is known for calling a spade, a spade .... it's Max, if he knows they don't has a change of winning he tells the press exactly that
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What?

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The combination of chassis and engine is ~3 tenths and change down on Mercedes. Can they close that gap by half? Frankly if they achieve that, they have enough to win the championship with Verstappen. And just maybe have a chance to win constructors if Albon is consistent with a few podiums.

1-2 finishes for the team + fast lap are huge. And Mercedes had like 6 of them in 2019. To have a chance at the constructor means stopping the 1-2.
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Max reflects on 2019 with Ziggo: 'Winning Austria was emotional'
In an exclusive end-of-year interview with Ziggo Sports, Max Verstappen reflected on an intense 2019 Formula 1 season.
A piece of the interview in cinema Tuchinski in Amsterdam:

https://www.verstappen.nl/en/article/3930/

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Don't know where to post it exactly..

Yamamoto could land Red Bull F1 role in 2020
Two-time Japanese Super Formula champion Yamamoto made his F1 debut earlier this year, driving a Toro Rosso in the first practice session at the Japanese Grand Prix so Honda could field its own driver at its home race.

It also allowed both parties to evaluate Yamamoto's performance in a grand prix car, and the 31-year-old's impressive debut and his eligibility for a superlicence has made it possible for him to take on a role next season, although it is not clear if this would be for both Red Bull teams or something specific to Toro Rosso.

Honda's F1 managing director Masashi Yamamoto told Motorsport.com: "We confirm that we are having conversations about him with Red Bull and Helmut Marko.

"We have quite a good offer, but this is not only Honda's decision or the team's decision, we have to speak to Naoki himself as well of course.

"He's participating in different series as well. It's still ongoing."

Honda has waited more than a decade for one of its drivers to race in F1, with Takuma Sato the last in 2008.

The junior drivers Honda has placed in Formula 2 in recent years have not achieved the required results to step up to F1, but the manufacturer still sees value in establishing an opportunity with Red Bull for the best members of its driver programme.

"Of course it is a very good thing for Honda to make a base for future Japanese young drivers," said Masashi Yamamoto. "It's going to give a good influence to current young drivers we have, and other Japanese drivers."

Formula 3 race winner Yuki Tsunoda, tipped for a move to Formula 2 next season, is Honda's brightest prospect on the F1 ladder.


The 19-year-old scored one victory and finished in the top 10 in the new FIA F3 championship in his first season racing in Europe.

Tsunoda is much younger than more established Honda drivers like F2 race winner Nobuharu Matsushita, who still does not have enough points for a superlicence after four years at F2/GP2 level and a year in Super Formula.

Masashi Yamamoto admitted it is "really, really difficult" for Honda's proteges to prove themselves good enough to be in F1 because of the various skills required.

He believes Super Formula ace Yamamoto, Matsushita and "maybe" Tsunoda have the abilities needed to succeed in F1, but while ex-F2 drivers Tadasuke Makino and Nirei Fukuzumi are "really quick and very talented" they are unlikely to return to the F1 ladder in the short-term.

"Of course, the driving skill or speed is needed, but it's not only about that," said Masashi Yamamoto.

"If you see Jenson Button, he's quick, but also his personality, the way he reacts to fans and also the media as well, and also the team relationship, dealing with people. Those aspects are really important."
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... 37/?nrt=54

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Only for the people who can understand Dutch :( , the interview Tuschinski in Amsterdam with Max.


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Marti_EF3 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:04 pm
Don't know where to post it exactly..

Yamamoto could land Red Bull F1 role in 2020
Two-time Japanese Super Formula champion Yamamoto made his F1 debut earlier this year, driving a Toro Rosso in the first practice session at the Japanese Grand Prix so Honda could field its own driver at its home race.

It also allowed both parties to evaluate Yamamoto's performance in a grand prix car, and the 31-year-old's impressive debut and his eligibility for a superlicence has made it possible for him to take on a role next season, although it is not clear if this would be for both Red Bull teams or something specific to Toro Rosso.

Honda's F1 managing director Masashi Yamamoto told Motorsport.com: "We confirm that we are having conversations about him with Red Bull and Helmut Marko.

"We have quite a good offer, but this is not only Honda's decision or the team's decision, we have to speak to Naoki himself as well of course.

"He's participating in different series as well. It's still ongoing."

Honda has waited more than a decade for one of its drivers to race in F1, with Takuma Sato the last in 2008.

The junior drivers Honda has placed in Formula 2 in recent years have not achieved the required results to step up to F1, but the manufacturer still sees value in establishing an opportunity with Red Bull for the best members of its driver programme.

"Of course it is a very good thing for Honda to make a base for future Japanese young drivers," said Masashi Yamamoto. "It's going to give a good influence to current young drivers we have, and other Japanese drivers."

Formula 3 race winner Yuki Tsunoda, tipped for a move to Formula 2 next season, is Honda's brightest prospect on the F1 ladder.


The 19-year-old scored one victory and finished in the top 10 in the new FIA F3 championship in his first season racing in Europe.

Tsunoda is much younger than more established Honda drivers like F2 race winner Nobuharu Matsushita, who still does not have enough points for a superlicence after four years at F2/GP2 level and a year in Super Formula.

Masashi Yamamoto admitted it is "really, really difficult" for Honda's proteges to prove themselves good enough to be in F1 because of the various skills required.

He believes Super Formula ace Yamamoto, Matsushita and "maybe" Tsunoda have the abilities needed to succeed in F1, but while ex-F2 drivers Tadasuke Makino and Nirei Fukuzumi are "really quick and very talented" they are unlikely to return to the F1 ladder in the short-term.

"Of course, the driving skill or speed is needed, but it's not only about that," said Masashi Yamamoto.

"If you see Jenson Button, he's quick, but also his personality, the way he reacts to fans and also the media as well, and also the team relationship, dealing with people. Those aspects are really important."
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... 37/?nrt=54
This is so understated, and is definitely a driver's skill. Politics is part of F1 through and through. If your face is on the TV screen you have to be very politically astute. Part of Hamilton's completeness as a driver is his political ability, knowing which words to say, when. Timing, when, and how you say things, the emphasis you put on certain words and concepts are all part of politics.

The ripples that came from Max's comments are still being felt, and will continue as motivation for Ferrari to "shut him up". Verstappen has been fighting Ferrari, and Vettel on track and with words since 2016, and in 2019 had some hard races with Leclerc. So there is an underlying rivalry, and to Max's credit that rivalry does breed interest. To be honest I enjoy the occasional spicy take, I understood it as bit of a tongue in cheek comment. In a way it puts scrutiny on Ferrari, but at the same time it may invite scrutiny further should Honda take a nice engine step.

Man, next year will be interesting, especially if performance between the top 3 converges and they all have a chance to win on their track. The tight competition will naturally lead to more emotional outbursts from drivers as the human element will matter more when it comes to winning. It will hurt more to come in second knowing you had a car that could win, than it does coming in second in a car you expected no better than 4th in.

If the cars are within .2 traffic can play a huge role.
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Do you know what is vtc ?
Helmut Marko stated that they were pleased with the development of the new RB16 they prepared for the year 2020, because they were two weeks ahead of their program.


Now our goal is to become the world champion in 2020 and make Max Verstappen the youngest champion in history.

Helmut Marko told Servus TV that the development process of the new car was going very well, even two weeks ahead of their program.

Red bull's slow season starts are typical? I can't say this because we're normally competitive after Spain, but this time it took a little longer. for us it was the learning process on behalf of 2020. "

"We have no excuse for next year. The engine is at the highest level, Max is now more experienced and therefore at the top of his performance. Now it's up to us to do the best on the chassis."

We are at least 14 days ahead of schedule. We now have the VTC and with this test bench we can test everything up to 330 km / h in real time. In this way, we can solve problems such as mapping. We planned four full weeks for this. "

"The situation is going better than ever and I think we have a good concept for the new season."

Google Translate job
https://tr.motorsport.com/f1/news/marko ... r/4614272/

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etusch wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:55 pm
Do you know what is vtc ?

We are at least 14 days ahead of schedule. We now have the VTC and with this test bench we can test everything up to 330 km / h in real time. In this way, we can solve problems such as mapping. We planned four full weeks for this. "



That must be a typo from Motorsport, because they also say VTC on other Motorsport sites.
VTT is used on other sites.

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"Max: 'Hopefully next year every track will be a Red Bull circuit'"

https://www.verstappen.nl/en/article/3931/

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Wouter wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:29 pm
etusch wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:55 pm
Do you know what is vtc ?

We are at least 14 days ahead of schedule. We now have the VTC and with this test bench we can test everything up to 330 km / h in real time. In this way, we can solve problems such as mapping. We planned four full weeks for this. "



That must be a typo from Motorsport, because they also say VTC on other Motorsport sites.
VTT is used on other sites.
What VTT means? Virtual Tract Testing?

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I found this:

"Und bei Red Bull in der Fabrik steht der Superprüfstand VTC Tag und Nacht bereit. Darauf kann das komplette Auto mit Motor virtuell auf jeder Rennstrecke dieser Welt fahren. Der Prüfstand ist direkt mit dem Simulator verbunden."