2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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_cerber1 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:18
Ground Effect wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 09:59
Can’t seem to open site from my end
McLaren is already looking forward to the next Belgian Grand Prix, the first date after the several-week summer break that has been made in Formula 1. The Woking team will try to continue improving and staying in that fourth position of builders that it has consolidated after A great first half of the season completed to date.
Waiting to see if McLaren will introduce aerodynamic developments in the MCL34 chassis, Renault works at the Viry-Châtillon factory in the third specification of its engine, a propeller that will have 15 more horsepower and will premiere at the Grand Prix of Belgium, presumably.

This improvement will mean that the French power unit will reach up to 975 real horsepower that McLaren will have available in one of the next two races of the Formula 1 calendar, although sources close to the team anticipate that only an MCL34 and an RS19 will mount the new power unit and will do so in Belgium, to avoid unnecessary penalties if the third specification does not grant the expected values.

“The improvement we wanted to achieve for 12 months in terms of the engine was 50 kW. We have achieved 40 and we intend to put another 10 throughout the season, ”says Cyril Abiteboul, CEO of Renault Sport Racing.
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Ground Effect wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:28
_cerber1 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:18
Thanks for this 👍
You are welcome.

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I find it really funny that Renault seems to quote HP numbers, do other manufacturers do that? It seems pointless.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 12:11
I find it really funny that Renault seems to quote HP numbers, do other manufacturers do that? It seems pointless.
As far as I know, no they don't and yes in a way it is pointless

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_cerber1 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:27
aran.vtec wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:20
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Didnt Renault alreadly claim 1000 horsepower with spec b?
They recorded values equivalent to 1000 hp. in qualifications under certain conditions. That article did not say that they have a mode guaranteeing 1000 hp. Many, instead of carefully reading the article, draw incorrect conclusions.
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Well if you look at their claims at the beginning on 2018 they were at 950hp so should be well over 1000hp by now

https://www.essentiallysports.com/2018- ... orsepower/

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I think it is only communication (power figures)

So Renault is telling each time how much it brings.
I think Honda as well.

Mercedes at the opposite is very discrete

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aran.vtec wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 12:22
_cerber1 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:27
aran.vtec wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:20
Can’t seem to open site from my end


Didnt Renault alreadly claim 1000 horsepower with spec b?
They recorded values equivalent to 1000 hp. in qualifications under certain conditions. That article did not say that they have a mode guaranteeing 1000 hp. Many, instead of carefully reading the article, draw incorrect conclusions.
Well if you look at their claims at the beginning on 2018 they were at 950hp so should be well over 1000hp by now

https://www.essentiallysports.com/2018- ... orsepower/

With these numbers, you got to be very careful who's saying them. Many assume Renault made the 975 HP statement. The statement "This improvement will mean that the French power unit will reach up to 975 real horsepower" should be understood as the writer making that claim not Renault. The Renauilt claim is of 10-15 more HP.

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diffuser wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 14:52
aran.vtec wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 12:22
_cerber1 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:27


They recorded values equivalent to 1000 hp. in qualifications under certain conditions. That article did not say that they have a mode guaranteeing 1000 hp. Many, instead of carefully reading the article, draw incorrect conclusions.
Well if you look at their claims at the beginning on 2018 they were at 950hp so should be well over 1000hp by now

https://www.essentiallysports.com/2018- ... orsepower/

With these numbers, you got to be very careful who's saying them. Many assume Renault made the 975 HP statement. The statement "This improvement will mean that the French power unit will reach up to 975 real horsepower" should be understood as the writer making that claim not Renault. The Renauilt claim is of 10-15 more HP.
Let's not forget they've been pretty decent this year with development.

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M840TR wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 15:05
diffuser wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 14:52
aran.vtec wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 12:22


Well if you look at their claims at the beginning on 2018 they were at 950hp so should be well over 1000hp by now

https://www.essentiallysports.com/2018- ... orsepower/

With these numbers, you got to be very careful who's saying them. Many assume Renault made the 975 HP statement. The statement "This improvement will mean that the French power unit will reach up to 975 real horsepower" should be understood as the writer making that claim not Renault. The Renauilt claim is of 10-15 more HP.
Let's not forget they've been pretty decent this year with development.
I have no doubts all manufacturers can break trough 1000 hp. But none of the engines would last for very long and none of the cars would not get to the end anyways due to the fuel shortage.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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proteus wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 15:41
M840TR wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 15:05
diffuser wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 14:52



With these numbers, you got to be very careful who's saying them. Many assume Renault made the 975 HP statement. The statement "This improvement will mean that the French power unit will reach up to 975 real horsepower" should be understood as the writer making that claim not Renault. The Renauilt claim is of 10-15 more HP.
Let's not forget they've been pretty decent this year with development.
I have no doubts all manufacturers can break trough 1000 hp. But none of the engines would last for very long and none of the cars would not get to the end anyways due to the fuel shortage.
I was really referring to Renault's general progress this year over others in the turbo-hybrid era.

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proteus wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 15:41

I have no doubts all manufacturers can break trough 1000 hp. But none of the engines would last for very long and none of the cars would not get to the end anyways due to the fuel shortage.
You would have better fuel efficiency if your engine can make more power, not worse. That's one of the double-whammy problems of this formula, whoever has the most self-sustain power available also has the best fuel economy and hence strategy options.

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PhillipM wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 17:00
You would have better fuel efficiency if your engine can make more power, not worse. That's one of the double-whammy problems of this formula, whoever has the most self-sustain power available also has the best fuel economy and hence strategy options.
Wow, I didn't think about it that way but makes perfect sense. It's a positive feedback loop, the more efficient your engine is, you can extract more of the fuel into power, which in turn means you have more power.

Not sure what could be the solution, aiming for efficiency is probably not going to go away in today's ecofriendly attitudes. Any ideas?

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FittingMechanics wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 17:52
PhillipM wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 17:00
You would have better fuel efficiency if your engine can make more power, not worse. That's one of the double-whammy problems of this formula, whoever has the most self-sustain power available also has the best fuel economy and hence strategy options.
Wow, I didn't think about it that way but makes perfect sense. It's a positive feedback loop, the more efficient your engine is, you can extract more of the fuel into power, which in turn means you have more power.

Not sure what could be the solution, aiming for efficiency is probably not going to go away in today's ecofriendly attitudes. Any ideas?
Its a triple as you start with less fuel on board too
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_cerber1 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:18
Ground Effect wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 09:59
Can’t seem to open site from my end
McLaren is already looking forward to the next Belgian Grand Prix, the first date after the several-week summer break that has been made in Formula 1. The Woking team will try to continue improving and staying in that fourth position of builders that it has consolidated after A great first half of the season completed to date.
Waiting to see if McLaren will introduce aerodynamic developments in the MCL34 chassis, Renault works at the Viry-Châtillon factory in the third specification of its engine, a propeller that will have 15 more horsepower and will premiere at the Grand Prix of Belgium, presumably.

This improvement will mean that the French power unit will reach up to 975 real horsepower that McLaren will have available in one of the next two races of the Formula 1 calendar, although sources close to the team anticipate that only an MCL34 and an RS19 will mount the new power unit and will do so in Belgium, to avoid unnecessary penalties if the third specification does not grant the expected values.

“The improvement we wanted to achieve for 12 months in terms of the engine was 50 kW. We have achieved 40 and we intend to put another 10 throughout the season, ”says Cyril Abiteboul, CEO of Renault Sport Racing.
thanks. Were there any statements made yet regarding which driver may get he new engine?

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search wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 20:14
_cerber1 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 10:18
Ground Effect wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 09:59
Can’t seem to open site from my end
McLaren is already looking forward to the next Belgian Grand Prix, the first date after the several-week summer break that has been made in Formula 1. The Woking team will try to continue improving and staying in that fourth position of builders that it has consolidated after A great first half of the season completed to date.
Waiting to see if McLaren will introduce aerodynamic developments in the MCL34 chassis, Renault works at the Viry-Châtillon factory in the third specification of its engine, a propeller that will have 15 more horsepower and will premiere at the Grand Prix of Belgium, presumably.

This improvement will mean that the French power unit will reach up to 975 real horsepower that McLaren will have available in one of the next two races of the Formula 1 calendar, although sources close to the team anticipate that only an MCL34 and an RS19 will mount the new power unit and will do so in Belgium, to avoid unnecessary penalties if the third specification does not grant the expected values.

“The improvement we wanted to achieve for 12 months in terms of the engine was 50 kW. We have achieved 40 and we intend to put another 10 throughout the season, ”says Cyril Abiteboul, CEO of Renault Sport Racing.
thanks. Were there any statements made yet regarding which driver may get he new engine?
Probably Carlos. Lando’s engine is only 3 races old, one of which was a DNF.