2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by loner » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:33 pm

Espresso wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 am
diffuser wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:31 pm
....

Not sure why he wasn't flagged to come in. Another f*ck up. He could argue why should I get penalised when I didn't get flagged ? If it was so bad why didn't I get flagged?

Don't get me wrong, I still think that Charles did was dumb....
On the border of getting off-topic.
A short quiz question that might answer the question how Charles got away with a 'Torpedo' move on Lando:

Question: Name the bottom Row?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGvfWRlXYAA ... name=small
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Answer:
1. Nicolas Todt, Son of Jean Todt, Manager of Charles LeClerc.
2. Giada Gianni..., Ex-girlfriend of Charles, dumped after he went stray with another lady Charlotte Siné with the excuse he left her for Ferrari
3. Charles, political adept like a fox
4. Jean Todt

More a question of conflict of Interest -or- influental politics
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para bellum.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Vasconia » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:47 pm

Andres125sx wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:22 pm
McLaren managed to finish ahead of Lecrerc´s Ferrari, and was consistently on RBR pace, ok a bit slower, but only a bit. These are two facts any McLaren supporter should be extremelly proud about. Obviously Lecrerc crash with Verstappen was the reason to finish behind, but I was sure he would pass Sainz again, but he didn´t!!

Even if it was thanks to an incident, we can´t expect a fight with top three teams when McLaren was 6th in WCC past season, but this was an evidence of the great job the team is doing, now they can fight with them when they have some unexpected problem, this was unconceivable past season

Step by step, this is the way to the top again
Now we only need to watch Carlos a little bit more on TV. :mrgreen:

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by diffuser » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:59 pm

loner wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:33 pm
Espresso wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 am
diffuser wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:31 pm
....

Not sure why he wasn't flagged to come in. Another f*ck up. He could argue why should I get penalised when I didn't get flagged ? If it was so bad why didn't I get flagged?

Don't get me wrong, I still think that Charles did was dumb....
On the border of getting off-topic.
A short quiz question that might answer the question how Charles got away with a 'Torpedo' move on Lando:

Question: Name the bottom Row?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGvfWRlXYAA ... name=small
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.
.
Answer:
1. Nicolas Todt, Son of Jean Todt, Manager of Charles LeClerc.
2. Giada Gianni..., Ex-girlfriend of Charles, dumped after he went stray with another lady Charlotte Siné with the excuse he left her for Ferrari
3. Charles, political adept like a fox
4. Jean Todt

More a question of conflict of Interest -or- influental politics
https://media1.giphy.com/media/prGwyBLmDzeJa/giphy.gif
Just because they were once in a picture together, doesn't mean they give a dam about each other now. I'm sure his ex girlfreind would have a few choice words about Charles that I wouldn't beleive.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by diffuser » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:02 pm

Vasconia wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:47 pm
Andres125sx wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:22 pm
McLaren managed to finish ahead of Lecrerc´s Ferrari, and was consistently on RBR pace, ok a bit slower, but only a bit. These are two facts any McLaren supporter should be extremelly proud about. Obviously Lecrerc crash with Verstappen was the reason to finish behind, but I was sure he would pass Sainz again, but he didn´t!!

Even if it was thanks to an incident, we can´t expect a fight with top three teams when McLaren was 6th in WCC past season, but this was an evidence of the great job the team is doing, now they can fight with them when they have some unexpected problem, this was unconceivable past season

Step by step, this is the way to the top again
Now we only need to watch Carlos a little bit more on TV. :mrgreen:
Yeah, Sainz was able to drive fast enough long enough that the softs of LeClerc wore out enough that when combined with getting to the end of the race and how difficult it is to pass at Suzuka, they gave up.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by _cerber1 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:36 am


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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by RonDennis » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:52 am

_cerber1 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:36 am
About MCL35

https://www.thebestf1.es/mclaren-prepar ... laza-2020/
Yeah. AS is talking about recovering 0.5 sec to Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull. Really excited what James Key can do, because his Toro Rosso during the Verstappen period was a really great car. According so sources it had the same amount of downforce as the Mercedes at the start of the year, although he couldn't do much during the year because of the much lower budget.

https://as.com/motor/2019/10/16/formula ... 37558.html

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by M840TR » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm

Such misleading click-bait headlines based on the same months old rehashed quotes. Seidl specifically mentioned that it's not "a radical change" rather "certain concepts of the car".

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by bauc » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:14 pm

M840TR wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm
Such misleading click-bait headlines based on the same months old rehashed quotes. Seidl specifically mentioned that it's not "a radical change" rather "certain concepts of the car".
Agreed, they mush up multiple quotes to create a story.... Seidl said Mclaren need to find their desing mojo back and be more brave but in the same time he advised that there will be no conceptual change, they would not risk it as they have build solid foundation this year already
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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by diffuser » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:47 pm

M840TR wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm
Such misleading click-bait headlines based on the same months old rehashed quotes. Seidl specifically mentioned that it's not "a radical change" rather "certain concepts of the car".
Bet one concept change will be the front suspension. those upper A-Arm connector.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by M840TR » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:03 pm

diffuser wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:47 pm
M840TR wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm
Such misleading click-bait headlines based on the same months old rehashed quotes. Seidl specifically mentioned that it's not "a radical change" rather "certain concepts of the car".
Bet one concept change will be the front suspension. those upper A-Arm connector.
I reckon so too. Low-speed performance is the car's Achilles' heel so the front-end will probably be subjected to major revisions and by virtue of that so will the rest of the aero such as sidepod deflectors, bargeboards and floor.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by martinbeiker » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:00 am

Quote from latest Sainz's column:

"My feeling in the car got better through qualifying and a very strong lap in the last run meant I finished P7 – best of the rest. It wasn’t all smooth, though, as we had a problem with the batteries. The older they are, the less energy they are able to recover from the MGU-K, so the data showed it had cost me a bit of time, around a couple of tenths."

So it turns out he actually lost a couple of tenths due to the battery not recovering enough energy, though, as he said, it was more related to the age of the battery itself rather than a supposed inferiority to the rest of the power unit manufacturers. Keep in mind though, the latter may also be true.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by _cerber1 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:35 am

Strange, this is the same 4 element that he was placed in the Spa. How can he be old?

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Ground Effect » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:48 am

_cerber1 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:35 am
Strange, this is the same 4 element that he was placed in the Spa. How can he be old?

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Maybe he was using one from earlier in the season for the Suzuka weekend that was still in the pool, not the one taken in Spa?
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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by _cerber1 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:03 pm

Ground Effect wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:48 am

Maybe he was using one from earlier in the season for the Suzuka weekend that was still in the pool, not the one taken in Spa?
Then it was very risky.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by search » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:26 pm

_cerber1 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:03 pm
Ground Effect wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:48 am

Maybe he was using one from earlier in the season for the Suzuka weekend that was still in the pool, not the one taken in Spa?
Then it was very risky.
electrical energy is more important in Mexico (and allegedly it was one of the key factors which let to the win last year), so maybe they were saving some parts