2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by SmallSoldier » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:47 pm

_cerber1 wrote:
Ground Effect wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:48 am

Maybe he was using one from earlier in the season for the Suzuka weekend that was still in the pool, not the one taken in Spa?
Then it was very risky.
Not necessarily, if they thought they had enough pace even with the old battery (which they did), it was an smart move... Save a newer one for a race like Mexico is optimal.


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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by _cerber1 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:51 pm

I think that Orlen has a small budget for McLaren. Williams received $ 10,000,000 by lobbying his pilot on the team, for McLaren such money is dust.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by RonDennis » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:17 pm

_cerber1 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:51 pm
I think that Orlen has a small budget for McLaren. Williams received $ 10,000,000 by lobbying his pilot on the team, for McLaren such money is dust.
Well, you're talking about sponsoring the slowest team on the grid. Petrobras also sponsored Williams in the past for less, it doesn't say that much.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Ground Effect » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:28 pm

RonDennis wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:17 pm
_cerber1 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:51 pm
I think that Orlen has a small budget for McLaren. Williams received $ 10,000,000 by lobbying his pilot on the team, for McLaren such money is dust.
Well, you're talking about sponsoring the slowest team on the grid. Petrobras also sponsored Williams in the past for less, it doesn't say that much.
Good point there, but from reports I've seen recently, Kubica is keen on doing FP's with a possibility of a 2021 drive. I can't see that happening with McLaren, even for just FP's. It would be great if they can strike a deal with a company like, Chevron, without needing to use their products. But then again, any deal that would make up for the shortfall would be great, not necessarily an oil company.
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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by RonDennis » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:48 pm

Ground Effect wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:28 pm
RonDennis wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:17 pm
_cerber1 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:51 pm
I think that Orlen has a small budget for McLaren. Williams received $ 10,000,000 by lobbying his pilot on the team, for McLaren such money is dust.
Well, you're talking about sponsoring the slowest team on the grid. Petrobras also sponsored Williams in the past for less, it doesn't say that much.
Good point there, but from reports I've seen recently, Kubica is keen on doing FP's with a possibility of a 2021 drive. I can't see that happening with McLaren, even for just FP's. It would be great if they can strike a deal with a company like, Chevron, without needing to use their products. But then again, any deal that would make up for the shortfall would be great, not necessarily an oil company.
Yeah, that's probably why McLaren said they didn't have any place for Kubica. Putting reserve drivers in your car isn't something McLaren will do for money, instead of teams like Haas and Williams.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Lucky » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:18 pm

News from Russia:
The Russian oil company Lukoil may become the new technical partner of the British Formula 1 McLaren team.
https://www.championat.com/auto/news-38 ... arena.html

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by _cerber1 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:38 pm

Lukoil has a lot of money, they can afford it. In Russia, they sponsor racing teams.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by McL-H » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:29 pm

_cerber1 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:38 pm
Lukoil has a lot of money, they can afford it. In Russia, they sponsor racing teams.
Do you have any idea about their advancement in fuel & lubricants? Since fuel nowadays can win or lose you valuable tenths, I’d figure it’s important to choose the right partner in this area. Said, they will actually use their products instead of BP/Castrol.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by RonDennis » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:07 pm

McL-H wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:29 pm
_cerber1 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:38 pm
Lukoil has a lot of money, they can afford it. In Russia, they sponsor racing teams.
Do you have any idea about their advancement in fuel & lubricants? Since fuel nowadays can win or lose you valuable tenths, I’d figure it’s important to choose the right partner in this area. Said, they will actually use their products instead of BP/Castrol.
I'm sure McLaren won't make the same mistake again. Anyway it's good to hear that they probably already got some other company in place, could be the reason why they terminated the contract with Petrobras.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by _cerber1 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:32 pm

McL-H wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:29 pm
Do you have any idea about their advancement in fuel & lubricants? Since fuel nowadays can win or lose you valuable tenths, I’d figure it’s important to choose the right partner in this area. Said, they will actually use their products instead of BP/Castrol.
Under the brands Lukoil, Genesis and EKTO, a full range of fuels and lubricants is produced. The company itself is not limited to oil production and its refining; they are also actively working in the chemical and energy industries. I think if Lukoil decided on such a step, then they perfectly understand the level of responsibility that falls on them.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by VFC_Cipher » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:16 pm

Return of the Rocket Red? (I know it isn't officially Rocket Red!) Lukoil is always red and white in their Livery. Would be bada** to see Leopard Natural drinks get involved and have a livery like the Leopard Racing Audi RS3 LMS livery!!

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by bauc » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:05 am

VFC_Cipher wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:16 pm
Return of the Rocket Red? (I know it isn't officially Rocket Red!) Lukoil is always red and white in their Livery. Would be bada** to see Leopard Natural drinks get involved and have a livery like the Leopard Racing Audi RS3 LMS livery!!
If and only if Lukoil becomes Mclaren's title sponsor, but chances of that are slim in my opinion
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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by McG » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:03 pm

2013 McLaren in recent colours

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by EddyBaggio » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:13 pm

McG wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:03 pm
2013 McLaren in recent colours

https://ibb.co/4wkdsKg
https://ibb.co/bRdhmvP
https://ibb.co/yNSmn7b
https://ibb.co/x57qCsM

Looks awsome 😍🧡

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by ScottR267 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:33 pm

McG wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:03 pm
2013 McLaren in recent colours

https://ibb.co/4wkdsKg
https://ibb.co/bRdhmvP
https://ibb.co/yNSmn7b
https://ibb.co/x57qCsM
Interesting to note Petrobras is still on the car given recent articles