2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:51 am

GoranF1 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:04 am
Zero mention of Prodrumou in latest Zak Brown interview, he did mention Fry and Key.
From what I've seen, the interviews are based around the restructuring, which of course involves the new hires, Pat, Andreas, Key, Sainz, Norris etc. Prod isn't new, his job hasn't changed, so basically no need to reference him. Hopefully, he's giving it his best shot.
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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:32 pm

As we countdown to the #MCL34 launch, take a sneak peek at some of the styling that you'll see on our 2019 contender.
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/10 ... 0311932934

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:39 pm

Great news that huge logo in the rear wing. Zak is doing a great job. =D>

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:49 pm

If that's not just a mockup there's some interesting changes just in that bit. Looks more like a drawing someone threw together though.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:14 am

BassVirolla wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:39 pm
Great news that huge logo in the rear wing. Zak is doing a great job. =D>
It wasn't posted by McLaren. Funny how Brown talked about various sponsors, while there were only 2 and they lost Chandon. Formula 1 and sponsorship not really happening at the moment to be honest. I mostly read about companies leaving the sport.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:49 am

RonDennis wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:14 am
BassVirolla wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:39 pm
Great news that huge logo in the rear wing. Zak is doing a great job. =D>
It wasn't posted by McLaren. Funny how Brown talked about various sponsors, while there were only 2 and they lost Chandon. Formula 1 and sponsorship not really happening at the moment to be honest. I mostly read about companies leaving the sport.
Maybe his goal is to get Coca Cola, together with its sub brands to replace Chandon. 1 left, another 2-3 signs in. They don't seem so worried about their sponsor portfolio at the moment

Edit: AFAIK Chandon is a sub brand of Diageo, which in turn owns Johnnie Walker, who also left for Force India due to FI's debt to its parent company. Free sponsorship for them. I guess it was not surprising Chandon would not renew their partnership with Mclaren.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:23 am

shotzski wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:49 am
RonDennis wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:14 am
BassVirolla wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:39 pm
Great news that huge logo in the rear wing. Zak is doing a great job. =D>
It wasn't posted by McLaren. Funny how Brown talked about various sponsors, while there were only 2 and they lost Chandon. Formula 1 and sponsorship not really happening at the moment to be honest. I mostly read about companies leaving the sport.
Maybe his goal is to get Coca Cola, together with its sub brands to replace Chandon. 1 left, another 2-3 signs in. They don't seem so worried about their sponsor portfolio at the moment

Edit: AFAIK Chandon is a sub brand of Diageo, which in turn owns Johnnie Walker, who also left for Force India due to FI's debt to its parent company. Free sponsorship for them. I guess it was not surprising Chandon would not renew their partnership with Mclaren.
It’s not just Chandon that they’ve lost, but also NTT and Airgain. So if Zak has signed two new sponsors then they’ve not even replenished what they’ve lost. Also worth noting that Chandon had big exposure on the car and overalls, likely meaning they were a top paying sponsor for the team. Whilst it’s not always that simple, it looks like another year with plenty of car space.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:49 am

I think Coca Cola is a "work in progress" that will grow over time depending on success & return on investment...

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:56 am

ScottR267 wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:23 am
shotzski wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:49 am
RonDennis wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:14 am


It wasn't posted by McLaren. Funny how Brown talked about various sponsors, while there were only 2 and they lost Chandon. Formula 1 and sponsorship not really happening at the moment to be honest. I mostly read about companies leaving the sport.
Maybe his goal is to get Coca Cola, together with its sub brands to replace Chandon. 1 left, another 2-3 signs in. They don't seem so worried about their sponsor portfolio at the moment

Edit: AFAIK Chandon is a sub brand of Diageo, which in turn owns Johnnie Walker, who also left for Force India due to FI's debt to its parent company. Free sponsorship for them. I guess it was not surprising Chandon would not renew their partnership with Mclaren.
It’s not just Chandon that they’ve lost, but also NTT and Airgain. So if Zak has signed two new sponsors then they’ve not even replenished what they’ve lost. Also worth noting that Chandon had big exposure on the car and overalls, likely meaning they were a top paying sponsor for the team. Whilst it’s not always that simple, it looks like another year with plenty of car space.
I guess it all depends on the value of the 1 or 2 sponsors coming on board. Imagine pulling in an amazon or apple etc for example, you could loose a couple of sponsors and still be covered. Obviously, I'm not saying they are, but Zak feels they've done a good job so far.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:29 am

ScottR267 wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:23 am
shotzski wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:49 am
RonDennis wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:14 am


It wasn't posted by McLaren. Funny how Brown talked about various sponsors, while there were only 2 and they lost Chandon. Formula 1 and sponsorship not really happening at the moment to be honest. I mostly read about companies leaving the sport.
Maybe his goal is to get Coca Cola, together with its sub brands to replace Chandon. 1 left, another 2-3 signs in. They don't seem so worried about their sponsor portfolio at the moment

Edit: AFAIK Chandon is a sub brand of Diageo, which in turn owns Johnnie Walker, who also left for Force India due to FI's debt to its parent company. Free sponsorship for them. I guess it was not surprising Chandon would not renew their partnership with Mclaren.
It’s not just Chandon that they’ve lost, but also NTT and Airgain. So if Zak has signed two new sponsors then they’ve not even replenished what they’ve lost. Also worth noting that Chandon had big exposure on the car and overalls, likely meaning they were a top paying sponsor for the team. Whilst it’s not always that simple, it looks like another year with plenty of car space.
I wouldn't care so much about NTT and Airgain, but Chandon is probably a pretty big deal. The most important thing is how big the two deals are.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:39 am

Ground Effect wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:56 am
ScottR267 wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:23 am
shotzski wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:49 am


Maybe his goal is to get Coca Cola, together with its sub brands to replace Chandon. 1 left, another 2-3 signs in. They don't seem so worried about their sponsor portfolio at the moment

Edit: AFAIK Chandon is a sub brand of Diageo, which in turn owns Johnnie Walker, who also left for Force India due to FI's debt to its parent company. Free sponsorship for them. I guess it was not surprising Chandon would not renew their partnership with Mclaren.
It’s not just Chandon that they’ve lost, but also NTT and Airgain. So if Zak has signed two new sponsors then they’ve not even replenished what they’ve lost. Also worth noting that Chandon had big exposure on the car and overalls, likely meaning they were a top paying sponsor for the team. Whilst it’s not always that simple, it looks like another year with plenty of car space.
I guess it all depends on the value of the 1 or 2 sponsors coming on board. Imagine pulling in an amazon or apple etc for example, you could loose a couple of sponsors and still be covered. Obviously, I'm not saying they are, but Zak feels they've done a good job so far.
That’s a fair point you make there, if they have signed 2 big sponsors monetary wise of course this will outweigh the loss of 2-3 smaller deals.

Another train of thought could Petrobras have greater exposure this year after signing last year. This year they will be providing the fuel and lubricants to McLaren and not BP/Castrol, for which I doubt BP would very much like Petrobras branded big style across the car when using their products last year. Could be wrong....

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:47 am

Apparently the photo was posted by Mclaren on Facebook but deleted later, so it might be genuine; according to reddit anyway.

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Here's the brightened version.

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Going by this, it appears the sidepods are much smaller and the main intake much larger. Same narrow style nose but with an S-duct.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:17 am

No way this is the MCL34, the car is not assembled yet for sure, this is just a paint scheme on the MCL33 although the main air intake indeed is quite huge :?
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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:29 am

M840TR wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:47 am
Apparently the photo was posted by Mclaren on Facebook but deleted later, so it might be genuine; according to reddit anyway.

https://i.redd.it/f9bvzcx3yxa21.jpg

Here's the brightened version.

https://i.imgur.com/eGJq6ke.jpg

Going by this, it appears the sidepods are much smaller and the main intake much larger. Same narrow style nose but with an S-duct.
Their graphics designer is sloppy. Look at the C on Coca Cola, extending beyond the rear flap