how many points have been thrown away by driver mistakes over the last 3 years? last year was hard to tell what caused them to lose the champonship, but there is a very strong argument to be made that vettels mistakes caused it. you cant beat mercedes and hamilton making costly mistakes, even when you have a faster car than them through the first half of the season.gdanielwesley wrote: ↑11 Jul 2019, 20:16Alonso isn't comming back ..he is just high maintenance.selvam_e2002 wrote:is Vettel able to handle pressure and politics in Ferrari Team? BIG NO and it is causing their championship point and lost last year WDC and WCC right?
Who else going to do that part? Lec no way! I would say Alonso is good fit for Ferrari if Vettel leaves the team.
One final note: if ferrari do politics then obviously Alonso need to do same. Right? We cannot say whats happening within the team until you worked with them, so don't go by media report and news.
will come to know by SG F1 race whether Alonso coming back or not.
Ferrari' s problem is the car. They failed to develop at the same rate as the others during the last few years.
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Ricardo sighed a 2 year contract with Renault. Please choose people who are NOT under contract.GPR -A wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 18:44Alonso did not have a SF70H or SF71H at his disposal, both of which were sure shot championship winners. When they had a great driver, the equipment was weak and when they built the right equipment, the driver is weak.diffuser wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 18:25Alonso worked... the team failed him repeatedly back then. In his 5 years I don't remember him making 1 gaffe.f1universe wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 17:21
We will see if Leclerc still works after 5 years without a title.
Honestly LeClerc doesn't need anybody but Alonso would push him.
In the current context, Ricciardo would be the best choice for Ferrari and he has a clause in his contract that would allow him to leave Renault if Mercedes or Ferrari offer come by. Bottas has one lap pace, but is too weak in races and is a passenger in the on track battles. Ricciardo is equally fast on one lap and is fare more intelligent, clean and ruthless in on track battles.
First and foremost, Ferrari need to fix the problem of their strategists. They need to put people who can outsmart the competition with out-of-the box thinking in strategy and read the race in shrewd and aggressive manner. Their strategy team is too weak and so much centered on Vettel that they lose out on Leclerc, who is clearly the better driver. The amount of stupid disregard they have shown to Leclerc's overall quali/race strategy is downright ugly.
Once they get Ricciardo, they should have two high quality strategy teams to assist both their drivers, lead by a highly decisive leader as their chief strategist. Currently, they are way too weak.
They don't need Hamilton or Alonso or John Cena to lead them. If they can fix their fundamental efficiency problems, they can win the championships with Lec and Ric.
isn't it known that Ricciardo has a clause in his contract, that if Merc or Ferrari come calling, he can leave.diffuser wrote: ↑18 Jul 2019, 03:17Ricardo sighed a 2 year contract with Renault. Please choose people who are NOT under contract.GPR -A wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 18:44Alonso did not have a SF70H or SF71H at his disposal, both of which were sure shot championship winners. When they had a great driver, the equipment was weak and when they built the right equipment, the driver is weak.
In the current context, Ricciardo would be the best choice for Ferrari and he has a clause in his contract that would allow him to leave Renault if Mercedes or Ferrari offer come by. Bottas has one lap pace, but is too weak in races and is a passenger in the on track battles. Ricciardo is equally fast on one lap and is fare more intelligent, clean and ruthless in on track battles.
First and foremost, Ferrari need to fix the problem of their strategists. They need to put people who can outsmart the competition with out-of-the box thinking in strategy and read the race in shrewd and aggressive manner. Their strategy team is too weak and so much centered on Vettel that they lose out on Leclerc, who is clearly the better driver. The amount of stupid disregard they have shown to Leclerc's overall quali/race strategy is downright ugly.
Once they get Ricciardo, they should have two high quality strategy teams to assist both their drivers, lead by a highly decisive leader as their chief strategist. Currently, they are way too weak.
They don't need Hamilton or Alonso or John Cena to lead them. If they can fix their fundamental efficiency problems, they can win the championships with Lec and Ric.
Define not proving himself. He is beating his teammate the lack of performance is the car not the drivers for Renaultselvam_e2002 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 07:50Ricciardo is not proving him self in Renault after coming out from RedBull I strongly doubt either him nor Ferrari/Mec will take him in next year 2020.
If even ferrari or Mec give seat to him with good pay in hike, he will not join. Don't except him to join.
Ferrari will go with Vettel for 2020 to give another chance to him then they can decide on who is wing man for lecrec in 2021.
I think you are actually right.selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 07:50Ricciardo is not proving him self in Renault after coming out from RedBull I strongly doubt either him nor Ferrari/Mec will take him in next year 2020.
If even ferrari or Mec give seat to him with good pay in hike, he will not join. Don't except him to join.
Ferrari will go with Vettel for 2020 to give another chance to him then they can decide on who is wing man for lecrec in 2021.
Why would any driver need to go to ferrari or Merc in 2021? With the CAP all the teams will be much closer. He's already getting paid good money.Webber2011 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 12:14I think you are actually right.selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 07:50Ricciardo is not proving him self in Renault after coming out from RedBull I strongly doubt either him nor Ferrari/Mec will take him in next year 2020.
If even ferrari or Mec give seat to him with good pay in hike, he will not join. Don't except him to join.
Ferrari will go with Vettel for 2020 to give another chance to him then they can decide on who is wing man for lecrec in 2021.
Daniel will be in a Ferrari or a Mercedes in 2012
He's played a great card to go to Renault for a couple of years.
Massive money, then when all the contracts are open, he'll be right finding a good drive
Hahahaha it won't change much. The top teams have the best people so reducing money won't change a great deal combined with the Renault having the worst engine at the momentdiffuser wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 14:30Why would any driver need to go to ferrari or Merc in 2021? With the CAP all the teams will be much closer. He's already getting paid good money.Webber2011 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 12:14I think you are actually right.selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 07:50Ricciardo is not proving him self in Renault after coming out from RedBull I strongly doubt either him nor Ferrari/Mec will take him in next year 2020.
If even ferrari or Mec give seat to him with good pay in hike, he will not join. Don't except him to join.
Ferrari will go with Vettel for 2020 to give another chance to him then they can decide on who is wing man for lecrec in 2021.
Daniel will be in a Ferrari or a Mercedes in 2012
He's played a great card to go to Renault for a couple of years.
Massive money, then when all the contracts are open, he'll be right finding a good drive
Well it means they will not have the money to pay all the best people. In other sports that have caps, the team have to pick and choose which of the best they want to keep. They have to release the best to stay under the cap. This is a little different than the other sports, those sports have fix number of people they can have on the roster. Here you will only limited by the $ amount. They will have to release, in the range of, 20% to 50%, of their staff. It will have a HUGE impact that will make recovering from mistakes, producing parts much longer and R & D much slower.marmer wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 02:08Hahahaha it won't change much. The top teams have the best people so reducing money won't change a great deal combined with the Renault having the worst engine at the momentdiffuser wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 14:30Why would any driver need to go to ferrari or Merc in 2021? With the CAP all the teams will be much closer. He's already getting paid good money.Webber2011 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2019, 12:14
I think you are actually right.
Daniel will be in a Ferrari or a Mercedes in 2012
He's played a great card to go to Renault for a couple of years.
Massive money, then when all the contracts are open, he'll be right finding a good drive
The top teams will keep the best people and release the others. And with all the exceptions on top of $175m that's plenty to keep the star players in each department. Plus there's the infrastructure that they've spent zillions on already.
IMO, if that happens, the FIA will tighten the rules.izzy wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 13:44The top teams will keep the best people and release the others. And with all the exceptions on top of $175m that's plenty to keep the star players in each department. Plus there's the infrastructure that they've spent zillions on already.
So imo although it's going to help reduce the gaps, it's not going actually change the order, apart from Max/Red Bull are coming anyway obviously and so are Charles/Mattia
There is of course another great problem with a simple cap on R&D, if the amount of staff, apart from a few of the big shots, is part of your succes, lets say, you can put 200 engineers onto a problem instead of 180, a decrease in pay will make you more successful. Or outsource some of the engineering work to low wages countries: "Ferrari Design center New Delhi" or "AMG Mercedes Shanghai". Teams that are already part of a global presence, like Daimler or Fiat-Chrysler will (again) have a big advantage.diffuser wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 17:14IMO, if that happens, the FIA will tighten the rules.izzy wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 13:44The top teams will keep the best people and release the others. And with all the exceptions on top of $175m that's plenty to keep the star players in each department. Plus there's the infrastructure that they've spent zillions on already.
So imo although it's going to help reduce the gaps, it's not going actually change the order, apart from Max/Red Bull are coming anyway obviously and so are Charles/Mattia
This is Liberty Media, they want F1 to be like the NFL.