[ 2020 ] Scuderia Ferrari - Ferrari

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Liking the 1-off livery; The lashing of Gold on the drivers overalls would've also looked good on and around the car too, maybe replacing the Italian Flag stripes for this race.

I reckon they could've gotten away with making the wheels gold too; Loved the look of those on the older Ferraris and the more recent ones in the 90's, but I digress... nice to see them celebrating it in some way... in what will most likely be another trying weekend for the team and all us Tifosi. :|

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Moore77 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:05 pm
wesley123 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:46 pm
LM10 wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:26 pm


Funny thing is that it's the fans and media asking for heads to roll. Ferrari is in a phase of changes. They finally (and luckily) seem to have understood that sacking everyone is no solution. So their current way of thinking is totally contrary to what you've written.
Stability is great and all, but if your leadership is making a mess of it, then someone has to get fired. Under the leadership of Binotto they have managed to turn a championship contender to a midfield runner in just 3 years. Not even Martin Whitmarsh could do that.

Then you can say 'it takes time', but an important part of leadership is taking responsibility; which he does not do. Not even remotely.
The previous championship contenders wouldn't have fared better, if the PU would have been in same situation. There was one major mistake, which probably was approved long while ago, which is biting extremely hard now. I am sure the chassis is an evolution from the past contenders, just that, not having enough grunt is making it appear a complete donkey. Firing and changing the organization now isn't going to yield anything. This is the time for leadership to show patience and trust. Open up the atmosphere for people to speak up honestly and not persecute them, allow ideas to come in front and look at them without prejudice. Fix the problems, not people.

Doing what has been done in the past, isn't going to make things better. 12 years are gone without a title, but there have been upteen number of executions. For a change, they should retain continuity and see how that goes. Ferrari shouldn't let people and media to drive decisions. For God's sake, fire those b*****s who constantly leak info to Italian media and keep those hungry tabloid vultures away from Maranello.
You can go for stability. But going for stability with someone who isn't fit for the role certainly will not yield results.
Has Binotto at any point in his role shown to be actually fit for the role? No.

He doesn't own the mistakes in the team, and if he does he extends it to everyone else. Outside of that there are just vague answers. To call the Monza weekend 'difficult' is just depressing when they first apparently didn't even notice a brake failure on Vettels car, and Leclerc spectacularly crashed out because he is overdriving the car.

I'm definitely not a Ferrari fan, but even I begin to feel sad for the drivers and everyone else who is involved in the team.
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with Ferrari setting new records (on the wrong side) every week, two DNS this weekend? postponing their 1000th race until Russia?

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So... that P3 from Charles... was it a fast lap with low fuel (done for marketing purposes perhaps)? Or could it be something else?

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he did a couple of laps afterwards, and the longrun in the morning was pretty good as well. I guess they just went into the wrong direction in the afternoon (I mean, Leclerc didn't just drop from P3 to P10 but also went 3 tenths slower than in the morning, while everyone else improved), or had problems with rising temperatures.

edit: Leclerc said that they were surprised about their speed in the morning, so they tried something different in the afternoon to understand why they were so quick :D

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Jolle wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:41 pm
with Ferrari setting new records (on the wrong side) every week, two DNS this weekend? postponing their 1000th race until Russia?
Not at all, Ferrari will be much more competitive in high downforce trim. They went quite well at Hungary. =D>

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JordanMugen wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:25 am
Jolle wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:41 pm
with Ferrari setting new records (on the wrong side) every week, two DNS this weekend? postponing their 1000th race until Russia?
Not at all, Ferrari will be much more competitive in high downforce trim. They went quite well at Hungary. =D>
Finishing 6th and 11th both a lap down is quite well in your book?

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If you consider Ferrari's race in Budapest in 2019, where they finished 3rd and 4th and over a minute behind Mercedes and Red Bull, then the result of 2020 pretty much ends up balancing out due to the reduction of performance from the Power Unit.

That aside... I think Ferrari has a reasonable chance of getting Charles into Q3 and scoring some solid points. Vettel I'm not sure, since he has unfortunately looked off the pace pretty much since Budapest this year (make of that what you will). Ferrari's race pace isn't too bad in comparison to the cars around them (Race Pace) so they might be able to get a double points finish. Yes, it sucks saying that is the realistic solid target for a Grand Prix... but it is what it is.

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The new color of red at Mugello is absolutely fantastic! It makes me sick to know we will likely never see this color again after this weekend, and then go back to the current terrible flat color they are using.

The deep retro color (like a darker version of rosso Mugello!) is so much classier, and it makes all the white writing on the car really pop with lots of contrast.

The actual "1000" decal is cheesy! But that paint color.....keep it! Turn over a new page!

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Ringleheim wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:54 am
The deep retro color (like a darker version of rosso Mugello!) is so much classier, and it makes all the white writing on the car really pop with lots of contrast.
I was thinking the same thing! The colour reminds me a lot of the actual Ferrari colour Rosso Mugello... wouldn't be surprised if that was almost somewhat deliberate!

I agree that they should go back to their Glossy Liveries from the past... The Rosso Corsa colours or even the Marlboro Red. I'm not a big fan of the Matte, but if it gives an apparently performance benefit... then we need all the assistance possible!

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Schippke wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:43 am
Ringleheim wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:54 am
The deep retro color (like a darker version of rosso Mugello!) is so much classier, and it makes all the white writing on the car really pop with lots of contrast.
I was thinking the same thing! The colour reminds me a lot of the actual Ferrari colour Rosso Mugello... wouldn't be surprised if that was almost somewhat deliberate!

I agree that they should go back to their Glossy Liveries from the past... The Rosso Corsa colours or even the Marlboro Red. I'm not a big fan of the Matte, but if it gives an apparently performance benefit... then we need all the assistance possible!
Just needs black wings of the late 80s/early 90s cars to top it off for me.

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That's a way beyond expectation! Having Leclerc on 5th. Wow!
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Certainly was a bit surprising... arguably got a bit lucky there with the Yellow Flag at the end of Q3, but seemingly got everything out of the SF1000. I'm mystified by the lack of pace from Sebastian; Does a potential lack of motivation and maybe not having a car that suits him as much really equal that much of a gap to Charles?

I guess we're seeing the same thing to a point with Red Bull and Max compared to Albon... but even then the gap isn't that large. It is a shame, regardless of what the reasoning is; Sad way for him to finish up his time at Ferrari.

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I wouldn't put it beyond this team to detune Vettel's car to justify sacking him. The performance difference between both drivers just suddenly started out of the blue, quite weird.

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Rikhart wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:42 pm
I wouldn't put it beyond this team to detune Vettel's car to justify sacking him. The performance difference between both drivers just suddenly started out of the blue, quite weird.
we will see when Saniz in Vettel place next year then we will know the clear picture who did what with the car.