[ 2020 ] Scuderia Ferrari - Ferrari

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Anyone knows if Ferrari is planning a pre-testing shakedown? a.k.a. 'filming day'?

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Ferrari will let both drivers fight each other from the get go. That's good news.

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How to manage the drivers? Good question ... Charles now has a year of experience with the team. In the first year he needed to get familiar with the team, while now he can aspire to fight for the best result. He will be at the same level of Vettel, he can fight to be in front as much as he can. So let Charles and Seb run. Then we'll see.

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If Ferrari let the drivers fight, Max or Lewis will be champion. Seb and Charles will cost each other points. I see a 2007-style title fight with Max/Lewis in the Kimi role.
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Ferrari seems to be en trouble for their MISSION WINNOW branding at the launch, against Italian law

Ferrari in hot water over Mission Winnow

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Holm86 wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 13:24
Ferrari seems to be en trouble for their MISSION WINNOW branding at the launch, against Italian law

Ferrari in hot water over Mission Winnow
"We will also ask for the new 'SF1000' single seater that was presented yesterday in Reggio Emilia to be seized."

If CODACON are successful in their action, the SF1000, team clothing and overalls could be seized ahead of preseason testing starting in Barcelona on February 19.


What the..? And why wasn't this a problem last year at the launch in Maranello when the branding was on the car as well?

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Question about new car launches in general (not strictly just Ferrari).

Are there any elements of design they are obliged to show at all at this point? Obviously we know some things will change before the season, but clearly there are things on all the cars when revealed which are vital parts of the design philosophy for the season. Given Renault aren't even bothering, what's the point in anyone doing anything other than presenting a really generic car in the 2020 livery with nothing given away at all design wise? Everyone's analysing all the elements of the Ferrari and Red Bull already. Couldn't they just have kept everything under wraps until their first track day or first day of testing?

I'm sure it's not going to influence rival teams THAT much at this late stage when they'll be seeing the cars at testing anyway, but surely there's no benefit in showing anything new off until absolutely necessary unless they are compelled to. OR is it in fact the opposite, where you're 'unzipping your trousers and letting everyone see what you've got' - to paraphrase one of Sebastian Vettel's best soundbites - and make opposing teams start wondering and worrying?

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Maybe the law changed ?
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NathanOlder wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 13:49
Maybe the law changed ?
Yes, maybe the legislation changed from only banning direct tobacco advertisement, to also ban indirect tobacco advertisement??

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Holm86 wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 13:51
NathanOlder wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 13:49
Maybe the law changed ?
Yes, maybe the legislation changed from only banning direct tobacco advertisement, to also ban indirect tobacco advertisement??
Seizing the cars seems a bit stupid and over the top- publicity stunt maybe? Surely a cease and desist would have been enough...

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I think it' s just marketing and presentation. For the sponsors and the audience.

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El Scorchio wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 13:47
Question about new car launches in general (not strictly just Ferrari).

Are there any elements of design they are obliged to show at all at this point? Obviously we know some things will change before the season, but clearly there are things on all the cars when revealed which are vital parts of the design philosophy for the season. Given Renault aren't even bothering, what's the point in anyone doing anything other than presenting a really generic car in the 2020 livery with nothing given away at all design wise? Everyone's analysing all the elements of the Ferrari and Red Bull already. Couldn't they just have kept everything under wraps until their first track day or first day of testing?

I'm sure it's not going to influence rival teams THAT much at this late stage when they'll be seeing the cars at testing anyway, but surely there's no benefit in showing anything new off until absolutely necessary unless they are compelled to. OR is it in fact the opposite, where you're 'unzipping your trousers and letting everyone see what you've got' - to paraphrase one of Sebastian Vettel's best soundbites - and make opposing teams start wondering and worrying?
There's very little reason to hide honestly, stuff like sidepods can't be copied in a moments notice.
Things like FW you just launch with the old one.

There's nothing revolutionary on the SF1000, it's just evolving some of the things they were already doing and employing some of the ideas seem on the competitors.

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El Scorchio wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 13:47
Question about new car launches in general (not strictly just Ferrari).

Are there any elements of design they are obliged to show at all at this point? Obviously we know some things will change before the season, but clearly there are things on all the cars when revealed which are vital parts of the design philosophy for the season. Given Renault aren't even bothering, what's the point in anyone doing anything other than presenting a really generic car in the 2020 livery with nothing given away at all design wise? Everyone's analysing all the elements of the Ferrari and Red Bull already. Couldn't they just have kept everything under wraps until their first track day or first day of testing?

I'm sure it's not going to influence rival teams THAT much at this late stage when they'll be seeing the cars at testing anyway, but surely there's no benefit in showing anything new off until absolutely necessary unless they are compelled to. OR is it in fact the opposite, where you're 'unzipping your trousers and letting everyone see what you've got' - to paraphrase one of Sebastian Vettel's best soundbites - and make opposing teams start wondering and worrying?

For the teams it is mandatory to have pr as much as they can. Secondly they dont really give away that much, at least nothing which can easily and quickly copied. We saw a very generic FW as well as RW, we didnt see any details on the floor. The Bargeboard area is quite unique as it has to collaborate with the front and rear portion of the car. At the end it is only 7 days to the first pre season test where they will show what they`ve got anyway. I never believed in the sandbagging theories. Test time is to precious to sandbag

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f1i reporting Ferrari are in trouble over ‘subliminal’ tobacco advertising

https://f1i.com/news/367498-ferrari-fac ... chdog.html

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Holm86 wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 13:24
Ferrari seems to be en trouble for their MISSION WINNOW branding at the launch, against Italian law

Ferrari in hot water over Mission Winnow
yes quite right afaic, it's obviously just a brazen workaround, they had to take it off before didn't they? In Oz and Canada? BAT will be in trouble over promoting vaping as well, hopefully!

edit Racefans says " However it removed the logos and dropped the ‘Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow’ team name at 11 of last year’s 21 races, including the Italian Grand Prix."

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