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Am I correct in believing Alonso can drive a 2 year old car as much as he wants?
They could probably get it to feel similar to this years car (or next years) and let him thrash around in it as he wants. I'm sure they could offset the coast to training and customer goodies.
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Big Tea wrote:
24 Nov 2020, 18:59
Am I correct in believing Alonso can drive a 2 year old car as much as he wants?
They could probably get it to feel similar to this years car (or next years) and let him thrash around in it as he wants. I'm sure they could offset the coast to training and customer goodies.
Alonso can drive n number of laps with 2018 car.

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if F1 agree with Freeze in engine and power unit as requested by RB, will Renault bring their 2022 engine and power unit in 2021 itself? how this can be handled by Renault? will Mercedes win till 2026 rule change? then it will be very boring to watch and does not make any sense for Alonso to come back to F1.

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today Renault also confirmed to go with freeze if FIA prepone 2026 rule change . I don't believe it! if they have freeze, then we will see same line up and Mercedes can win another 4 wdc and wcc. will make the race boring.

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 07:19
today Renault also confirmed to go with freeze if FIA prepone 2026 rule change . I don't believe it! if they have freeze, then we will see same line up and Mercedes can win another 4 wdc and wcc. will make the race boring.
Do you really still consider Mercedes advantage is just/mainly the PU? #-o

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Andres125sx wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 12:07
selvam_e2002 wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 07:19
today Renault also confirmed to go with freeze if FIA prepone 2026 rule change . I don't believe it! if they have freeze, then we will see same line up and Mercedes can win another 4 wdc and wcc. will make the race boring.
Do you really still consider Mercedes advantage is just/mainly the PU? #-o
Yes 100% I believe that. otherwise why they(Mercedes) agree with freeze.

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 12:15
Andres125sx wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 12:07
selvam_e2002 wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 07:19
today Renault also confirmed to go with freeze if FIA prepone 2026 rule change . I don't believe it! if they have freeze, then we will see same line up and Mercedes can win another 4 wdc and wcc. will make the race boring.
Do you really still consider Mercedes advantage is just/mainly the PU? #-o
Yes 100% I believe that. otherwise why they(Mercedes) agree with freeze.
I 100% disagree with that. Otherwise, why Renault agree with the freeze?

Mercedes still has an edge on PU department, but assuming that´s their main advantage looks almost vintage :mrgreen:


How do you explain RP jump in perfomance the same season they´ve get past season Mercedes chasis? They were using their PU since the beginning of this ruleset, and their perfomance was quite poor

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
27 Nov 2020, 18:54
Big Tea wrote:
24 Nov 2020, 18:59
Am I correct in believing Alonso can drive a 2 year old car as much as he wants?
They could probably get it to feel similar to this years car (or next years) and let him thrash around in it as he wants. I'm sure they could offset the coast to training and customer goodies.
Alonso can drive n number of laps with 2018 car.
I wonder at what point the 2019 car becomes the 2 year old car? Cause that car is really close to the 2020 Renault.

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Andres125sx wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 12:30
selvam_e2002 wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 12:15
Andres125sx wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 12:07


Do you really still consider Mercedes advantage is just/mainly the PU? #-o
Yes 100% I believe that. otherwise why they(Mercedes) agree with freeze.
I 100% disagree with that. Otherwise, why Renault agree with the freeze?

Mercedes still has an edge on PU department, but assuming that´s their main advantage looks almost vintage :mrgreen:


How do you explain RP jump in perfomance the same season they´ve get past season Mercedes chasis? They were using their PU since the beginning of this ruleset, and their perfomance was quite poor
Rule changes like allowing teams to carry more fuel(less fuel saving) and reduction of PU modes have marginalized the advantage of Merc PU over previous years, Yet RP pace, still, has taken a significant jump.

@Andres125sx Sorry, just wanted to reenforce what you were saying

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diffuser wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 15:22
selvam_e2002 wrote:
27 Nov 2020, 18:54
Big Tea wrote:
24 Nov 2020, 18:59
Am I correct in believing Alonso can drive a 2 year old car as much as he wants?
They could probably get it to feel similar to this years car (or next years) and let him thrash around in it as he wants. I'm sure they could offset the coast to training and customer goodies.
Alonso can drive n number of laps with 2018 car.
I wonder at what point the 2019 car becomes the 2 year old car? Cause that car is really close to the 2020 Renault.
Welcome to 2020, where iPhones are getting more frequently updated than F1 cars.

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JRindt wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 17:20
diffuser wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 15:22
selvam_e2002 wrote:
27 Nov 2020, 18:54


Alonso can drive n number of laps with 2018 car.
I wonder at what point the 2019 car becomes the 2 year old car? Cause that car is really close to the 2020 Renault.
Welcome to 2020, where iPhones are getting more frequently updated than F1 cars.
:D :) :) :)

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diffuser wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 15:22
selvam_e2002 wrote:
27 Nov 2020, 18:54
Big Tea wrote:
24 Nov 2020, 18:59
Am I correct in believing Alonso can drive a 2 year old car as much as he wants?
They could probably get it to feel similar to this years car (or next years) and let him thrash around in it as he wants. I'm sure they could offset the coast to training and customer goodies.
Alonso can drive n number of laps with 2018 car.
I wonder at what point the 2019 car becomes the 2 year old car? Cause that car is really close to the 2020 Renault.

With the 2020 engine
I just hope that another team will use it in 2022. I aasume Haas

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Was there not talk of allowing 'outlaying' engines to catch up? There must surely be something here that attracts builders other than Mercedes.
They would not agree to a 3 year advantage to someone else, so obviously think they will gain from it.

What is in the back of my mind is that Mercedes never seem to show the full extent of what they have, so there cold be some long faces in the padlock
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toraabe wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 21:33
diffuser wrote:
28 Nov 2020, 15:22
selvam_e2002 wrote:
27 Nov 2020, 18:54


Alonso can drive n number of laps with 2018 car.
I wonder at what point the 2019 car becomes the 2 year old car? Cause that car is really close to the 2020 Renault.

With the 2020 engine
I just hope that another team will use it in 2022. I aasume Haas
The end of 2019 PU is the 2020 PU.

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not a good performance by Ric. change him with Alonso to get familiar with 2020 car and can help in developing 2022 car.

It seems Ric is suffering on bring the Tyre to operational temperature. at the second start he lost the places. I did not except this from him. Some time he seems to be average driver.

Better replace with Alonso and Renault not going to lose much.

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