2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
User avatar
nzjrs
124
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:21 am
Location: Austria/UK

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Agree. The conflicting thing which kind of binds FIA to Pirelli's fate, and the point at which I do agree with you and Pirelli is that, is that it is shame that the standardized tire pressure monitoring system TPMS (in race) was pushed back with the 18 inch wheels.

I can imagine that Pirelli kind of is annoyed with the FIA for not giving them enough FP running, or in race pressure data, or tire tests, to be able to really conclude anything useful, so we are left with their useless statement and these new 'rules'/'actions'.

It smells to me like another case of "we just have to do something!!!" with a large emphasis on the "something"

User avatar
RZS10
225
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:23 am

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Could be... didn't Isola complain about how hard it is to have tests at the factory that even remotely represent real life conditions/loads?
How much actual track time do they get with those tyres before finalizing the design?
They brought the tyres to a few races last year and every team had to run them for a few minutes but i honestly can't remember if there was a dedicated tyre test (like this year for 2022) and by the time they brought them to the very limited winter testing the tyres had to be "done" - now if there was something significantly wrong with the design they'd be extremely reluctant to change the construction mid season, not only because they'd have to admit failure but because of the possible implications for the pecking order, so just 'clamping down' on some alleged but not proven misuse by the teams is the easier way out.

User avatar
godlameroso
514
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:27 pm
Location: Miami FL

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

This is a nice conversation but there's a topic for that, keep this out of the team thread please.
Saishū kōnā

aral
aral
Moderator
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:49 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Agreed. There is a specific thread for tyres, so please discus this "problem" on that forum as it has nothing to do with RBR team

User avatar
nzjrs
124
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:21 am
Location: Austria/UK

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

aral wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:10 pm
Agreed. There is a specific thread for tyres, so please discus this "problem" on that forum as it has nothing to do with RBR team
Agree - please move the discussion (to which thread?? - there are however 3 threads discussing tires, the last 2 race threads and now this one, and an old one about 2018?).

aral
aral
Moderator
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:49 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Please use the 2018-2020 tyre thread as these basically are the current tyres.

User avatar
Wouter
625
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post


User avatar
Wouter
625
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post


aMessageToCharlie
aMessageToCharlie
11
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:28 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Very interesting press conference. Both drivers ultra confident, calm and professional. With a bit of mind games as it should be.

Looking good for the race!

User avatar
etusch
199
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:09 pm
Location: Turkey

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post


User avatar
Wouter
625
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

:shock: :D Breakfast in France.


User avatar
Wouter
625
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post


User avatar
godlameroso
514
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:27 pm
Location: Miami FL

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

When Verstappen drives like that it looks incredible.
Saishū kōnā

User avatar
Sieper
150
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:19 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Agreed, watched the whole lap with baited breath. Incredibly good sector 3 where the red tires seem to be too hot for everyone.
Just a personal interest, a Family recreating a WW2 May 1940 Dutch warbird from scratch: https://www.facebook.com/FlyingFokkerD21/

User avatar
RZS10
225
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:23 am

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

And he didn't even sacrifice S1 to keep them in shape in S3