2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
Sevach
Sevach
969
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:00 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

wowgr8 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:17 pm
nzjrs wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:52 pm

Why does Mercedes care if the champion is British or not? It's an honest question, I've never considered them a British team.
I definitely look at them as a British team, everyone in their operation (that I know of) apart from Wolff is a Brit and of course they're based completely in the UK. And I'd guess they'd want a driver in the Hamilton mould, Lewis gets them a lot of fan and media attention in the UK which I presume is one of their main/biggest markets
Mercedes priority one is winning regardless of driver, they chose Hamilton back in the day because he was the best available not nationality.
Priority 2 would be marketeability worldwide, not specifically the UK, Hamilton is also very well known worldwide and an extremely good marketing tool.

George+Bottas(and i like George, but very few besides the hardcore fans know his face) would be a huge downgrade in marketeability, Max seems like the most well known young driver, he would fulfill both requirements amazingly.
And if George as team mate manages to make it exciting, and perhaps beat him, it will be a huge boost to his profile like it was for Hamilton to face Alonso who was pretty much "the man" after Michael retired.

User avatar
Wouter
603
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post


restless
restless
25
Joined: Tue May 10, 2016 8:12 am

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Wouter wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:45 pm
Image
Anyone else who "sees" Rowan Atkinson posing?
:D

User avatar
nzjrs
119
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:21 am
Location: Austria

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

restless wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:17 pm
Anyone else who "sees" Rowan Atkinson posing?
:D

Hahah, I see that now.

wowgr8
wowgr8
19
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:35 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Sevach wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:13 pm


Mercedes priority one is winning regardless of driver, they chose Hamilton back in the day because he was the best available not nationality.
Priority 2 would be marketeability worldwide, not specifically the UK, Hamilton is also very well known worldwide and an extremely good marketing tool.

George+Bottas(and i like George, but very few besides the hardcore fans know his face) would be a huge downgrade in marketeability, Max seems like the most well known young driver, he would fulfill both requirements amazingly.
And if George as team mate manages to make it exciting, and perhaps beat him, it will be a huge boost to his profile like it was for Hamilton to face Alonso who was pretty much "the man" after Michael retired.
To be clear I don't think they'd pick Russell purely because he's British, but I'm sure they like him more for that, as they're a British team. I also don't see them going for Max unless Russell and Bottas don't do the job in 2022

Curbstone
Curbstone
5
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:40 am

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team may have their home base in the UK, but they compete in Formula 1 under the FIA racing licence issued by the German National Automobile Club. This makes the the team's nationality German.

User avatar
etusch
191
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:09 pm
Location: Turkey

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post


wogx
wogx
22
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:48 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

nzjrs wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:52 pm
Why does Mercedes care if the champion is British or not? It's an honest question, I've never considered them a British team.
You didn't hear about the British "mafia" in F1 yet? :-k Mercedes doesn't care, but the Brits...


And that's not bad after all, F1 is considered as an global sport, but there is more Britons than Germans or Italians on the grid/in the paddock/in the commentary boxes. Germans want a German champion in DTM, Americans love American drivers in Indy and so on.

User avatar
Juzh
573
Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:45 am

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

verstappens lap 1.31.394 (open in yt)

epo
epo
-13
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:57 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

wogx wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:19 pm
nzjrs wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:52 pm
Why does Mercedes care if the champion is British or not? It's an honest question, I've never considered them a British team.
You didn't hear about the British "mafia" in F1 yet? :-k Mercedes doesn't care, but the Brits...


And that's not bad after all, F1 is considered as an global sport, but there is more Britons than Germans or Italians on the grid/in the paddock/in the commentary boxes. Germans want a German champion in DTM, Americans love American drivers in Indy and so on.
So less British people then.

User avatar
Racer X
13
Joined: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:04 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

epo wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:55 pm
wogx wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:19 pm
nzjrs wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:52 pm
Why does Mercedes care if the champion is British or not? It's an honest question, I've never considered them a British team.
You didn't hear about the British "mafia" in F1 yet? :-k Mercedes doesn't care, but the Brits...


And that's not bad after all, F1 is considered as an global sport, but there is more Britons than Germans or Italians on the grid/in the paddock/in the commentary boxes. Germans want a German champion in DTM, Americans love American drivers in Indy and so on.
So less British people then.


The British Mafia...
Well it's American owned now. They'd have to go threatening in America and we don't exactly have a fear of Britain. So that should go well...
RedBull Racing MAX//PEREZ

Hoffman900
Hoffman900
45
Joined: Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:02 am

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

It’s never been a secret that F1 is primarily a British sport governed by the French...

Sevach
Sevach
969
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:00 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Image

For those that like to interpret mood, corporal expression... i would say things are going quite well.

Manoah2u
Manoah2u
427
Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:07 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Sevach wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:53 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Exa7XfuXIAE ... me=900x900

For those that like to interpret mood, corporal expression... i would say things are going quite well.
and yet all that could change with a simple DNF after engine failure 6 laps before the finish and see Bottas grab a win instead for example.

Not saying that'll happen, but honestly, it doesn't mean so much at all.
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

User avatar
Sieper
150
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:19 pm

Re: 2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

It happened last year in the opening race. Season over For Ver.

But we now know Honda energy recovery took a big hit by a TD right before season start last year and the car(s) stopping was apparently caused by that.
Just a personal interest, a Family recreating a WW2 May 1940 Dutch warbird from scratch: https://www.facebook.com/FlyingFokkerD21/