2021 Mclaren F1 Team

[Mclarensenna]

Great article on Dan from Andreas Stella. Dan is there for the long haul. Everything else from the cheap seats calling for him to be replaced, is not good enough etc is just background noise. They know what he brings to the table over many years in different cars and what needs to be done going forward and no doubt are aiming for 2022 as the big year to start fighting for wins.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/08/03/mc ... VHJ-eWoT18

Very interesting article. Especially the part where even a practise session is not really a chance to practise and adapt but preparation for the race.
So it makes it extremely difficult to try and change your driving style.

Schumacher was always considered 1 of the best adaptors in history that could drive around any car issue.
But we saw what happened on his return the 1st year he struggled. The second year he improved and 3rd year improved further to get his 1st pole in Monaco. In previous eras Schumacher would have driven 1000s of laps and by race 1 fully adapted. It took schumacher til his 3rd year to get fully comfortable but by then age caught up with him and other issues like mistakes crept in.

It is very difficult to measure schumachers performance as he was getting older slowly losing performance and the fact he was rusty after 3 years away andRosberg getting stronger gaining more experience in his peak years.

But factoring this in schumacher outright 1 lap pace did improve in his 3rd year due to adapting to the car. Everybody needs time with the car and in previous eras it would take weeks due to unlimited testing. Now with limited testing it can take a year or 2.

[Big Tea]

Great article on Dan from Andreas Stella. Dan is there for the long haul. Everything else from the cheap seats calling for him to be replaced, is not good enough etc is just background noise. They know what he brings to the table over many years in different cars and what needs to be done going forward and no doubt are aiming for 2022 as the big year to start fighting for wins.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/08/03/mc ... VHJ-eWoT18

Very interesting article. Especially the part where even a practise session is not really a chance to practise and adapt but preparation for the race.
So it makes it extremely difficult to try and change your driving style.

Schumacher was always considered 1 of the best adaptors in history that could drive around any car issue.
But we saw what happened on his return the 1st year he struggled. The second year he improved and 3rd year improved further to get his 1st pole in Monaco. In previous eras Schumacher would have driven 1000s of laps and by race 1 fully adapted. It took schumacher til his 3rd year to get fully comfortable but by then age caught up with him and other issues like mistakes crept in.

It is very difficult to measure schumachers performance as he was getting older slowly losing performance and the fact he was rusty after 3 years away andRosberg getting stronger gaining more experience in his peak years.

But factoring this in schumacher outright 1 lap pace did improve in his 3rd year due to adapting to the car. Everybody needs time with the car and in previous eras it would take weeks due to unlimited testing. Now with limited testing it can take a year or 2.

As your comparison, Schumacher was probably one of the most 'practiced' drivers in history.
He put in hours on Ferrari track and, as you say learned to drive around problems.
I remember seeing* a particular corner he had a problem with(don't recall which) being laid out in cones and he tried and tried different options until come race day on the rea corner he was the master again.

Although (to me) probably the best of all time, he had the advantage of unlimited practice, which has to be worth while.


* not seeing with my own eyes I hasten to add, just vid of it, which I do not know where to find, was probably Eurosport as I associate Watsons voice with it.

[runningmanz]

Great article on Dan from Andreas Stella. Dan is there for the long haul. Everything else from the cheap seats calling for him to be replaced, is not good enough etc is just background noise. They know what he brings to the table over many years in different cars and what needs to be done going forward and no doubt are aiming for 2022 as the big year to start fighting for wins.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/08/03/mc ... VHJ-eWoT18

Very interesting article. Especially the part where even a practise session is not really a chance to practise and adapt but preparation for the race.
So it makes it extremely difficult to try and change your driving style.

Schumacher was always considered 1 of the best adaptors in history that could drive around any car issue.
But we saw what happened on his return the 1st year he struggled. The second year he improved and 3rd year improved further to get his 1st pole in Monaco. In previous eras Schumacher would have driven 1000s of laps and by race 1 fully adapted. It took schumacher til his 3rd year to get fully comfortable but by then age caught up with him and other issues like mistakes crept in.

It is very difficult to measure schumachers performance as he was getting older slowly losing performance and the fact he was rusty after 3 years away andRosberg getting stronger gaining more experience in his peak years.

But factoring this in schumacher outright 1 lap pace did improve in his 3rd year due to adapting to the car. Everybody needs time with the car and in previous eras it would take weeks due to unlimited testing. Now with limited testing it can take a year or 2.

Yeah its great to hear from the likes of Andreas as well that they really value what Dan has brought to the team and are optomistic for the future with him too. He is now an integral part of the climb back to hopefully race wins and then championships. Next year is key and given everything changes they know that there is a better than average chance that he gets back to form we know he is capable of and he along with Lando help the team bring back the glory days.

[mclaren111]

Which of the remaining tracks will be "bad" for MCL35M ??

[SmallSoldier]

But Alonso stayed out of trouble. Maybe he had thought it through.

Unlikely, he just made a slower start which proved lucky - Daniel was doing an amazing job keeping out of trouble until Stroll crashed into Leclerc and sent him crashing into the side of Daniel!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7tRxerWQAEmBlg?format=jpg

Ric jumped 4 cars on the start in the wet and kept out of trouble and was in clear air. 1 of the best starts of his career wet or dry. If he did not get rammed, damaging the entire floor he would have most likely won the race.

And everybody would have credited this as the best win of Rics career a 10 out of 10 drive from start to finish.

Instead he had a damaged floor all race, ends up out of the points through no fault of his own and now he is rated just 1 out of 10 and should be fired based on many of the replies i am hearing.

Such a huge over reaction all based on emotion and nothing else.

Over reactions are happening on both sides unluckily… Not fair to say that Daniel had a bad race when his car was compromised (and stuck behind other drivers in a very hard to overtake track)… On the other hand, saying that he would have won the race if not for the contact is also just a “what if”, which we will never know if it would have been possible or not

[SmallSoldier]

Which of the remaining tracks will be "bad" for MCL35M ??

Very hard to tell since the changes this season have shaken the grid a bit and still need to find out if the team will be better or worse on the new Pirelli tires for the second half of the season… But I would expect Russia, Mexico and Brazil to be a bit challenging for the MCL35M… Spa, Zandvoort and Monza should be races that on paper will be good for the team based on their high speed sections… Then comes Russia in which S3 has proven difficult for Mclaren in the past, last season the team introduced the new slim nose for the race and they struggled, but maybe this time it won’t be as hard… Istanbul is a tricky one to judge, last year’s race was crazy and unrepresentative with the rain… I would expect decent performances in Japan and the US, not necessarily quickest but the team won’t struggle… Then Mexico and Brazil could be tricky… Which Interlagos the last race where I would expect the team to Struggle… Saudi Arabia is a big unknown and Abu Dhabi should be ok

[maxxer]

Back in the hamilton rosberg days they were also both using different discs and calipers is that maybe daniel needs to try some other supplier for that , or is that not possible nowadays

https://topgear-autoguide.com/category/ ... 1607609151

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24207/9922216/rosberg

[PhillipM]

They already changed brake pad materials this season to see if that helped him out.

[MrGapes]

He easily would have won that race. Stroll that pay driver daddys boy is such a joke of a driver. No idea hows hes on the grid along with Mazepin. Ridiculous bad luck for both Lando and Dan.

Dan will be fine next season. Lando's 3 year or so headstart with the same design philosiphy has obviously allowed him to know the finer details in setup and how to brake the car into corners.

I saw in one of the video's dan was talking with James Key giving his input how where the car needs to change which obviously would suit his driving style more.

Confident we will see a superstrong Ric in 2022.

Could you link this? Thanks!

[Mclarensenna]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/daniel-ri ... mage-loss/

Better picture of the side damage to Rics car. Seidl claiming damage cost Ric .7 - .8 seconds a lap so it was very significant.

[runningmanz]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/daniel-ri ... mage-loss/

Better picture of the side damage to Rics car. Seidl claiming damage cost Ric .7 - .8 seconds a lap so it was very significant.

Yep thats huge to deal with yet some people are still having a go at him for that race. Its ridiculous.

[djos]

Indeed, that’s a massive handicap!

[mclaren111]

https://www.mclaren.com/group/news/arti ... n-applied/


Applied Technologies being sold...

[Emag]

If it was sold, it means it wasn't generating enough revenue as a business. All this means now is that McLaren will have to buy their electronic units for their F1 car, just like every other team.

[the EDGE]

If it was sold, it means it wasn't generating enough revenue as a business. All this means now is that McLaren will have to buy their electronic units for their F1 car, just like every other team.

Not really. The owners have simply decided to cash in their investment to re-invest in their core business

MAT will continue to be based at the MTC, and be run by the same people, so will clearly have an excellent relationship with McLaren in developing technologies for them, which of course they will pay more for, but will also receive income for rent which will more than pay for ECUs

It’s all part of their strategy to be the best racing team & best super car manufacturer